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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-16 (Tuesday)
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On 4/17/2024 11:26 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 8:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
>>>> Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (DVR)
>>>> "Shang-Chi, the master of weaponry-based Kung Fu, is forced to confront
>>>> his past after being drawn into the Ten Rings organization."  (IMDb)
>>>> Part of the Next Generation of the MCU after Infinity Stones war.
> 
>>>> Super Trivia!
> 
>>>> Simu Liu, when cast as Shang-Chi, was knowledgeable in taekwondo,
>>>> gymnastics, and Wing Chun. For his role as the Master of Kung Fu, Liu
>>>> trained in tai chi, wushu, Muay Thai, pencak silat, Krav Maga,
>>>> jiu-jitsu, boxing, and street fighting.
> 
>>>> Simu Liu put on 10 lbs. of muscle to play Shang-Chi.
> 
>>>> The filmmakers cite Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000), Kung Fu
>>>> Hustle (2004), Tai Chi Master (1993), the The Matrix (1999) series,
>>>> Donnie Yen's "Ip Man" films and Jackie Chan films as an influence on the
>>>> martial arts action. Michelle Yeoh starred in Crouching Tiger, Hidden
>>>> Dragon.
> 
>>>> The producers for the film briefly discussed the idea of Ant-Man
>>>> appearing in the film due to both him and Shang-Chi living in San
>>>> Francisco, but ultimately decided it would derail from the main story.
> 
>>>> The bus fight is loosely inspired both by Jackie Chan and Buster Keaton.
> 
>>>> The 25th film of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
> 
>>>> Shang-Chi is the first superhero film with an Asian leading protagonist
>>>> for Marvel Studios.
> 
>>>> The final film features over 1,700 visual effects shots.
> 
>>>> Although there were many opportunities in the screenplay, the Wilhelm
>>>> Scream was not used in this film for a falling or injured character.
> 
>>> Pretend you heard it from me when you mentioned the number of effects
>>> shots. How many are there in a Jackie Chan movie fight scene? That would
>>> be none whatsoever. What's the point in learning how to fight in so many
>>> styles when it's just going to be a special effect?
> 
>>> You almost tempted me.
> 
>> How many dragons and supernatural creatures did Chan fight?  How many
>> wizards opening up portals to move around the world in Chan's movies?
>> Forests that close around moving cars?  Magic arms bands battering down
>> cliffs?
> 
> Usually, he fought the same stunt men from the previous movie.

So why would he need special effects?

But as for Simu Liu learning new techniques I don't see what that has to 
do with FX.  _He_ still have to move like he knows how to fight before 
they CGI in whatever weirdness he is fighting against.

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