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On 2024-04-18 19:13:09 +0000, The Real Bev said:

> On 4/18/24 2:11 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-04-18 08:20, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 4/17/24 10:18 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-17 10:05, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 4/15/24 11:48 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pre-empirically carrying a gun is not "self-defence". Its weakness.
>>>>>> Billions of people are quite capable of not becoming a victim without
>>>>>> needing guns for "self-defence".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, screaming I AM NOT A VICTIM at the thug with a knife will >>>> 
>>>>> definitely send him on his way abashed and save Granny from being >>>> 
>>>>> harmed. Or perhaps you were thinking of the umbrella with the >>>> 
>>>>> sharpened tip?
>>>> 
>>>> You still haven't explained why the US has so many more deaths than
>>>> other countries similar to it.
>>>>> I have no idea why.  Do you?  Perhaps we are just violent people.
>>>>> Given that this is true, how do we best protect ourselves when law >> 
>>>>> enforcement is too far away to be protective?
>>> The same way as other countries do: by banning weapons. You do not let
>> violent people easy access to weapons.
> 
> Like Mexico...
> 
> Knives, rebar, baseball bats, tennis rackets, 2x4s...

With the possible exception of the cars, all of those personal 
'weapons' are impossible to use to kill and injure lots of people in a 
short space of time ... unlike a moron with a (semi)automatic gun 
spraying bullets around.



>>> A few nights ago a guy pulled a knife on a woman, forced her to drive 
>>> to >> a different location and raped her.  This happened a few blocks 
>>> away. >> What should she have done?
>>> Same as in any modern and evolved country.
> 
> Bend over and smile?
> 
> She was sitting in her car in a restaurant parking lot at 8:30 at night 
> in a "safe" neighborhood.  He jumped into her car.  Perhaps she should 
> have locked her doors, but that's alien behavior here.

A lot of common sense things are alien behaviour in America: owning 
guns, not wearing seatbelts, electing lunatics as the President, not 
knowing how to spell the words like "colour" or "aluminium", ...  :-\




> If someone threatens you with ANY weapon they have forfeited their 
> right to decent treatment.  Perhaps no weapon is required if they are 
> physically threatening.  We should all be allowed to protect our own 
> lives.  Period.
> 
> -- Cheers, Bev
>     "People are too stupid to realize they are."
>                               --JoHn DoH KeLm

The number of people who successfully "protect their own lives" by 
owning a gun is FAR FAR FAR outweighed by the number of innocent people 
killed or seriuously injured by a looney with a gun.

You've got junior school kids "solving" their arguments by shooting 
people. The country needs to obtain some form of common sense.