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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Take that lane! Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 10:38:38 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 51 Message-ID: <uvu35t$32mkh$2@dont-email.me> References: <uvr64t$293vm$1@dont-email.me> <uvrekf$2aocg$2@dont-email.me> <uvu17o$3225a$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:38:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00fb7c4976a40a9e8367db4717a17339"; logging-data="3234449"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/JH3dXrE8wHHSvJv+RRKma" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iLCRuxdx2B10/nc8CBH86xiUiZ8= In-Reply-To: <uvu17o$3225a$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3443 On 4/19/2024 10:05 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 4/18/2024 11:35 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/18/2024 9:10 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>> https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/a-person-was-spotted-biking-on-i-90-in-chicago-police-have-a-message-for-them/3413507/ >> >> I (ahem!) know a few people (ahem!) who did something >> similar for a short distance at a remote spot on one very >> long bike tour. They were advised to do it by a bunch of >> friendly retirees, who said it was really the only >> reasonable way to get where they were going by bike. >> >> It was technically illegal, but it was extremely safe and >> disturbed nobody. Your Chicago example seems different, >> > I don't know, Traffic wasn't moving. The only real risk to > him would be someone using the breakdown lane (besides > another bike). > > There's a stretch of elevated roadway in Cambridge MA called > the McGrath highway. It's limited access, but didn't have > any posted usage restrictions (when I was using it in the > 90's). When I was working at the Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary, > the regular surface roads were dense with traffic lights and > stopped traffic during commuting hours. the highway went > over that part of cambridge and dropped off across the > charles river a few blocks from MEEI. It had a wide > shoulder, and during commuting hours traffic was ostensibly > stopped. One day at work, someone in my department commented > that I had passed him that morning, and commented on my > sanity and intelligence for riding on a roadway with a 50 > MPH speed limit. I asked him 'how fast were you going when I > passed you on my bike?'. > > If traffic was flowing in Andrews example at the speeds it > was designed to flow, sure, there would be a safety issue. > But safety of a competent cyclist isn't really the point > here, it's the safety of the incompetent types - those that > would infact ride on a limited use limited access highway > with traffic traveling at speed. > OK, incompetent cyclists wandering across the lane stripe. Then again the breakdown lane is full of auto pilot carnage with some regularity: https://cwbchicago.com/2024/04/chicago-drunk-driver-killed-former-marine-crash-stevenson-expressway.html -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971