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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Take that lane!
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:48:38 -0400
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On 4/19/2024 11:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/19/2024 10:05 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 4/18/2024 11:35 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 4/18/2024 9:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/a-person-was-spotted-biking-on-i-90-in-chicago-police-have-a-message-for-them/3413507/
>>>
>>> I (ahem!) know a few people (ahem!) who did something similar for a 
>>> short distance at a remote spot on one very long bike tour. They were 
>>> advised to do it by a bunch of friendly retirees, who said it was 
>>> really the only reasonable way to get where they were going by bike.
>>>
>>> It was technically illegal, but it was extremely safe and disturbed 
>>> nobody. Your Chicago example seems different,
>>>
>>   I don't know, Traffic wasn't moving. The only real risk to him would 
>> be someone using the breakdown lane (besides another bike).
>>
>> There's a stretch of elevated roadway in Cambridge MA called the 
>> McGrath  highway. It's limited access, but didn't have any posted 
>> usage restrictions (when I was using it in the 90's). When I was 
>> working at the Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary, the regular surface roads 
>> were dense with traffic lights and stopped traffic during commuting 
>> hours. the highway went over that part of cambridge and dropped off 
>> across the charles river a few blocks from MEEI. It had a wide 
>> shoulder, and during commuting hours traffic was ostensibly stopped. 
>> One day at work, someone in my department commented that I had passed 
>> him that morning, and commented on my sanity and intelligence for 
>> riding on a roadway with a 50 MPH speed limit. I asked him 'how fast 
>> were you going when I passed you on my bike?'.
>>
>> If traffic was flowing in Andrews example at the speeds it was 
>> designed to flow, sure, there would be a safety issue. But safety of a 
>> competent cyclist isn't really the point here, it's the safety of the 
>> incompetent types - those that would infact ride on a limited use 
>> limited access highway with traffic traveling at speed.
>>
> 
> OK, incompetent cyclists wandering across the lane stripe. Then again 
> the breakdown lane is full of auto pilot carnage with some regularity:
> 
> https://cwbchicago.com/2024/04/chicago-drunk-driver-killed-former-marine-crash-stevenson-expressway.html

Sure, but that isn't exclusive to breakdown lanes. A cyclist riding on 
the shoulder of _any_ road faces the same risk.
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