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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Take that lane! Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 16:29:17 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <uvuk6v$36dd4$1@dont-email.me> References: <uvr64t$293vm$1@dont-email.me> <uvrekf$2aocg$2@dont-email.me> <uvu17o$3225a$2@dont-email.me> <uvu35t$32mkh$2@dont-email.me> <uvuea6$3225a$4@dont-email.me> <uvuevd$3582v$3@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 22:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="acd96b8f7f9fb266b8e003f2c261d961"; logging-data="3356068"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++2AuuBlKCSARqC1vdq/Zm/t8PnaVGhDk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BF7vErnzwKjL+e73eMJeoTCe8cU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <uvuevd$3582v$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2206 On 4/19/2024 2:59 PM, AMuzi wrote: > > My daughter was doored ten days ago on Devon Avenue (north side Chicago) > and dumped into the traffic lane. Fortunately traffic stopped for her. > She's banged up but wasn't crushed to death with a 65mph impact. I'll mention again: Dooring is a very dangerous type of crash, because it often hooks the right handlebar, suddenly throwing the rider leftward, possibly right in front of a car. But dooring data is poorly captured. Most accident report forms treat it the same as if the cyclist ran into something like a telephone poll. It's not considered a crash with a "vehicle in transport." And I'm told that Chicago did choose to record doorings - even though many of their bike lanes actually promote dooring crashes, since they're painted in the door zone. They found that something like 20% to 25% of their car-bike crashes were doorings. Don't ride in the door zone. -- - Frank Krygowski