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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:38:49 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <uvuva9$1kece$5@i2pn2.org> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <jiByUg3itYlr4c-5gc54C5DtzYc@jntp> <uutvak$8bgp$6@i2pn2.org> <U7GL1fl3wTDGDgsPhy8ZdN3VReM@jntp> <uuump7$ck7p$1@i2pn2.org> <NCVbior4erTrQ2rfbzJ2QgfS_bM@jntp> <uv1u89$gg07$1@i2pn2.org> <87jzkv60u7.fsf@fatphil.org> <x8vkK7FeDZu-rGbWyGj5CBhPQ9o@jntp> <uvs7gv$1h01f$4@i2pn2.org> <F3NJB2RrI4M6H-wuVHFtzoAViKA@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 23:38:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1718670"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <F3NJB2RrI4M6H-wuVHFtzoAViKA@jntp> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2392 Lines: 36 On 4/19/24 11:39 AM, WM wrote: > Le 19/04/2024 à 00:40, Richard Damon a écrit : >> On 4/18/24 11:08 AM, WM wrote: >>> Le 18/04/2024 à 01:27, Phil Carmody a écrit : >>>> Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> writes: >>> >>>>> That means that YOUR logic system is proven INCONSISTENT, and thus >>>>> BLOWN UP. >>>> >>>> And that is where the intrigue lies. >>> >>> My logic system says: ω is amidst the interval (0, ω2) because in the >>> image of the function f(x) = x*2 there are as many ordinals in (ω, >>> ω2) as in (0, ω). >>> >> >> And if your logic doesn't understand that the "ordinals" in (ω, ω*2) >> are different than those of (1, 2, 3, ...) it is just broken. > > Of course they are different since all those of (1, 2, 3, ...) have been > doubled and therefore cannot remain the same set. Nope, sjnce every natural number has aleph_0 natural numbers after it, they are never "used up", but there are always more. Your logic just breaks on unbounded sets. >> >> Any finite number *2 will be less than ω. > > Not if all those which could emerge from doubling are doubled too. Yep, since you can't "use up" an infinte set that way. > > Regards, WM