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Subject: Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know
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On 03/28/2025 05:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
> In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli  proposed the existence of the neutrino (named in
> 1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
> decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
> Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
> rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
> detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
>
> The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
> than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
> like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
> (1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
> neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
>
> Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
> JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
> since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
> them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
> equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
> (< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
> energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
>
> Two collosal experiments have been developed to capture neutrinos, at
> the expense of tens of billions of USD. One of these collosus is the
> Japanese Super-Kamiokande (see attached pic), which uses ultrapure
> water. The other one is the IceCube arrangement, located inside the
> Antarctic ice. IceCube was designed to CAPTURE ultra-high-energy cosmic
> neutrinos, while the Super-K is designed to CAPTURE solar, atmospheric,
> and accelerator neutrinos, which are much less energetic.
>
> The concept behind the CAPTURE of neutrinos is strictly based on the
> emission of Cherenkov radiation (blue light flash), when they penetrate
> water or ice, because its speed would be faster than light in those
> enviroments, so they have to subside energy (Cerenkov discovered this
> 100 years ago).
>
> The PROBLEM with neutrinos is that they don't like to interact with
> matter. ALLEGEDLY (if neutrinos really exist), the probability to detect
> ONE NEUTRINO PER YEAR, at the Japanese Super-K is:
>
> ONE IN 10,000,000,000,000,000
>
> Or about 5,000 to 10,000 neutrinos "detected by the Cherenkov blue flash
> over 10^20 neutrinos per year entering into the Super-Kamiokande
> (Super-K). It means about 10 to 20 neutrinos per day.
>
> How the neutrinos "ARE DETECTED"?: Super-K uses a cylindrical stainless
> steel tank, 41.4 meters tall × 39.3 meters in diameter (like a 13-story
> building buried underground). It contains the inner  Super-K
> (36-meter-tall × 34-meter-diameter) is filled with 50,000-ton ultrapure
> water.
>
> Super-K uses 11,129 photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) to capture the
> Cherenkov blue flashes that form a cone of light as it decreases its
> speed at about 0.7c. The PMTs are extremely fragile and are placed side
> by side in all the internal surface. If one explodes, a chain reaction
> happens that destroy most of the other PMT.
>
> The PMT MUST BE SUPERSENSITIVE because they only can capture few photons
> of the light cone, as the neutrinos penetrates into the Super-K volume.
> The FLASH can happen at any depth, because neutrinos have to interact
> with binding energies in the nucleus of atoms to be detected. PMTs have
> few nanoseconds to detect the arrival times of photons. A solar neutrino
> (from the Sun) interacts in the water, creating an electron, which is
> the one that emits Cherenkov light, hitting about 100 PMTs. The output
> of the PMTs raise the energy close to 5 MeV, after which software
> processing complete the calculations.
>
> One additional narrative is the existence of antineutrinos, which are
> (allegedly) distinguished in the Super-K.
>
> The most important facts are:
>
> *  Neutrinos must have mass, but IT IS NOT KNOWN YET.
>
> * Only a difference in alleged masses of the three types of neutrinos is
> known, BUT ONLY BECAUSE the detected oscillations are different.
>
> * Since they are emitted (i.e. by the Sun), neutrinos change (mutate)
> from one type to the other (or scientists allege to).
>
> * The mutations are originated (as they say) due to mechanisms:
>
> **** Seesaw Mechanism: Heavy right-handed neutrinos suppress left-handed
> neutrino masses.
>
> *** Dirac vs. Majorana: If neutrinos are their own antiparticles
> (Majorana), their mass could arise from exotic processes.
>
> MY CONCLUSION: Physics needs that neutrinos REALLY EXIST, otherwise the
> law of conservation of energy is violated. How neutrinos are generated
> IS UNKNOWN. If neutrinos have mass or not IS UNKNOWN. Tens of billions
> of USD wasted for nothing, as the confusion in physics increase with
> each generation of geniuses proposing contradictory ideas. The existence
> of cosmic neutrinos is essential in astrophysics to FILL THE VOID in
> calculations. Also, in cosmology, their role is essential for such
> unproven theories like the BB.
>
> I smell a rotten fish around this.
>
> Meanwhile, physicists making six figures plus expenses are more than
> happy, and have zero accountability.
>
> HOAX!


You forgot the Baikal detector at the other end of
the line of the Batavia-Baikal neutrinophone.


Neutrinos are simply whatever is superluminal flux,
when gravity's speed is infinite and light's is not,
and in the nuclear sector with Cerenkov/Brehmsstrahlung.

Don't you know there are three super-symmetries after
electron physics for muon, hadron (the most popular by far),
and neutrino physics?


It is so that many "physicists" today are "weak SR-ians"
and that's their limits and others don't know that nucleon
theory and hadron theory are different, and pretty much
dealing with their force/field as a model of motion of point/space
as "energy" absent "entelechy" and a continuous manifold of
space-time, is just a technician.


You need a super-classical model of motion if you're
going to, get anywhere, as it were.