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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: I never thought of this scenario Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:21:00 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <v00mgt$3k7ho$2@dont-email.me> References: <uuvl9j$uaf$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <uv1ucj$sti$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <uv2e9m$jin$2@dont-email.me> <uv2g3g$39k$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <uv320m$4tr5$1@dont-email.me> <uv4jd3$mj2$2@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <uv5doe$q7om$4@dont-email.me> <uv5f3n$qkhk$1@dont-email.me> <uvchq3$2kbfj$3@dont-email.me> <uvcmop$75v$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <uvcu5a$2qdb0$5@dont-email.me> <uvdcrf$6p7v$1@news1.tnib.de> <uvhtaq$3th0n$4@dont-email.me> <uvi269$28bn$1@dont-email.me> <uvnf17$1ct1p$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 17:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="89470782f4cf1cd6ffc59467c91451f2"; logging-data="3808824"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+sFIemX8apXGx1CUB1Di9Y" Cancel-Lock: sha1:G1fqkE/RucIqC4QMC7qSVlW3nJk= Bytes: 2470 On 17.04.2024 um 03:17 Uhr Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > No, I didn=E2=80=99t miss it at all. It=E2=80=99s listed under =E2=80=9Cd= esign goals=E2=80=9D, not=20 > actually under how the spec works. >=20 > By definition such a protocol cannot work across routers, because > clients don=E2=80=99t know what routers are available until a DHCP server > tells them. It can't work across routers without helpers because the client knows nothing about the network, so the discover message will got to the non-directed broadcast 255.255.255.255. Traffic to that address is by design not being routed because that would mean forward it to the entire world. Another problem is to get the answer back because the src address is 0.0.0.0 at this stage. That is why the relay agent is needed and forward all that with src and dst being unicast addresses. Even with DHCPv6 a helper is needed if the DHCP server resides on another link (also called broadcast domain). --=20 kind regards Marco Send spam to 1713316679muell@cartoonies.org