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From: Anonymous <anon@anon.net>
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Subject: Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 00:33:08 -0400
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Alan wrote:
> On 2024-04-19 14:03, Anonymous wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-15 22:10, Anonymous wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-04-14 20:06, Anonymous wrote:
>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/04/2024 01:58, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So is trump. They are much alike and have never done anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither has ever committed a crime or screwed a customer or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business partner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is provably untrue, in that Trump has already lost two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civil cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wherein one of which a jury found him to be a rapist  - in most 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> civilised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's view, that is both committing a crime and screwing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Losing a civil case is not the same as a criminal conviction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The claim was the he "never done anything wrong". Losing a civil 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear case of doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No it's not. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And? If the court finds against you you've legally done something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not morally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump has never done anything morally wrong? You've
>>>>>>>>>>> completely lost any sense of reality.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At the very least he cheated on two of his wives. He sexually 
>>>>>>>>>>> assaulted one
>>>>>>>>>>> woman (probably more) and he defrauded several banks and the IRS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If he legitimately "knife to the throat" raped women,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What the fuck does that mean?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> then why wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> he criminally prosecuted?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like you said yourself the US system doesn't provide justice, especially
>>>>>>>>> against rich, powerful men. Sexual assault hasn't been treated well by the
>>>>>>>>> CJS for a long time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, you probably think Jacqueline Coakley was telling the truth. LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forget accusations, most rape _convictions_ are false.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spoken like a true misogynist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go read what happened to Harvey Weinstein.
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly—in your humble opinion—"happened" to Harvey Weinstein?
>>>>
>>>> Why should some slut be allowed to go to the authorities after YEARS
>>>> AND YEARS and cry "rape"?
>>>
>>> Why should he be allowed to get away with it even if it's been years?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any aspects of the law you trust? From here it sounds like you'd
>>>>>>> prefer the wild west.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are countless laws that literally invent crimes and proscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>> punishments when there is no concrete harm being done to anyone or
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Countless, really? Examples.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Notable you didn't answer this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All laws that punish mere possession of firearms by peaceable men, for one,
>>>>>>>> if you really want to get into that debate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do "peaceable men" need to have a gun? In modern society there's no
>>>>>>> need for anyone to be carrying guns. It's just boys pretending to be men.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because bad and evil men exist. This isn't changed by modern society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When everyone is carrying a gun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But not everyone carries a gun.
>>>>>
>>>>> The simple fact is:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2019_Gun_ownership_rates_and_gun_homicide_rates_-_developed_world_-_scatter_plot.svg>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deal with it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that someone is more dead after having been shot with a
>>>> gun?
>>>>
>>>> And why the focus on the "developed world"?
>>>
>>> Because those countries are similar to the US in terms of wealth, social 
>>> development, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mexico has fierce gun laws
>>>> and a much higher murder rate.
>>> And there is a lot more poverty in Mexico.
>>>
>>
>> Poverty doesn't cause crime.
> 
> Poverty leads to desperation, and desperate people do what they need to do to 
> survive.

Poverty is the natural state of man. There are plenty of poor civilized people,
and I don't see them turning their neighborhoods into crime-ridden ghettos.