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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:47:20 -0700
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On 2024-04-20 21:32, Anonymous wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-04-19 14:04, Anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those are upgraded misdemeanors, because there is allegedly an 
>>>>>>> UNDERLYING
>>>>>>> felony. Show us the UNDERLYING felony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't understand the law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There doesn't have to be an "underlying felony".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There just has to be an underlying crime that the falsification 
>>>>>> was undertaken in furtherance of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fine, then what was the underlying crime?
>>>>
>>>> Federal election contribution crimes.
>>>
>>> And Bragg has no authority to prosecute that. He's pulling shit out
>>> of his ass.
>>
>> He doesn't need authority to prosecute those crimes.
>>
>> The statute simply requires that there ARE crimes that the 
>> falsifications of business records were intended to cover up.
>>
>> You agree that Trump did falsify the records, right?
>>
>> :-)
> 
> Those are misdemeanors. Bragg suggested four _possibilities_ of underlying

They're misdemeanors unless he shows they were committed to cover up 
another crime.

> crimes to turn them into felonies, meaning he was an ape flinging shit at
> the wall trying to see what would stick. Now he is claiming campaign
> finance crimes, but that "underlying crime" didn't occur until AFTER Trump
> won, in 2017, and the payments reimbursing his lawyer's payments are only
> illegal if construed as a campaign contribution. But if they were illegal
> campaign contributions, as opposed to personal expenditures, why didn't the
> Justice Department prosecute Trump for that?

You remember that his lawyer went to jail for this, right?

Cohen pleaded guilty to

'and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the 
request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing 
[the] election".'