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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!tor-network!not-for-mail From: Tai Loong <iot@nii.cn> Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [SR] Their proper times will necessarily be equal Followup-To: sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:36:02 -0000 (UTC) Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <v03f9h$3aua9$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <uVqLA5I1wpq_Hog1Ofr-W0SOaIo@jntp> <RvOdnV9ZSY5Jb777nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <OSudna7sofeDh7j7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:36:02 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3504457"; posting-host="tZLFch1qsjlKExXK8G2hrg.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X) X-Face: '<-e2ZAR4axU^6GA!DM/>h"-8NWk>'^C0m:o|1^+2l^|<"fF-%A(4A4Z@:e^@m7^ kOeX&U@fMw&~%(`jpoQ?-zQn%NI|mVV^d4KQ/WY#i$\t|Oo\19FpP_|08xfMkxT_X"bC0Xr OYXO`F#Ns989+QQme:;YID%cIx3&}>p~\(?;$b$8z+OA=JAjM-oWIvG\pN$?<b7,>).z:e1 ^m!x*GXR<LiqH@nHP$*<}-$(cY7[>G-)7!h"/=I51FSk/g><6uUe:+0cQ7J;4^FX^i8R)jy v1ELt!)1z$":]2wAeZ`o^370`U0rG>odgRhT8BB9Oy@~z3::ds5" X-TOR-Router: sha256:MTg1LjIyMC4xMDEuMTI4 -- X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEWDJybMR1Pf p1XScFBGExfokI/51LzHMx2zaIcOAAACLUlEQVQ4jW2TO2/jMAyAGdut1uhyh66 Bg95sW1WzOoiArg4cpXNRxLMSB+DfP5KSnQY4DoLMzyTFFwz/kbP3Hh6//0btIy BN905nb1gE+EngnY4ZzGrfwbOZBO7q0wDwHH831v8AwxfAE1+MYa+Co8UbQEY8h RNLufYOIL+/Y2Umr0d4AKeBnUq4ECB7nYEkxvpOIT6CeOkDPgJRWl9vFYP8DmwF LEWrLgxSCT1lXi0Bk3yGnZlr5XtQCvULgysA2t7MAPCiEfMK83Xh2kTgdK4UXmr EsgywAXBuYVPZjcIXjU1ZVtAAk9ZG8L1EvGSkd5BVDJzLewbniuJmZbOEGbh9z6 09UG7jOlszaEXv2lcG35K0osj5W9R/lBsZBvKlMVDkVQT7Jk0JmVA9spszApSp0 1x9KVwF8vMxFqwfR2qSgE6Fhhq+VshPNfVpGGI/KhjLqnBbvFHeTc1NJcBHaDYG cRucg7E+nf0EFGzcbjSBDBRamSzLHTyoQEFB6qRtml4GRwyFlEI5JyPWpxFdqsD NJSPn4lRammOOs1CkLyTpJg7swKCP3l0CRgZ/oDw6cTNbsMkEqMxYxIL/mgGFoH /xBkpMrnErJDgZYPjjDyFZxK0AeyjaMfAmvVDiLptXzR5brHgtTM0m12lfwHeu2 EsVao7yAyyd28nu1HCLQJOsQPNjFpp/BJQ8BGgIEWhtbP+bAI1uBBgoDwYryw9v nvwEkBDIXVPyamFquf8D8FEhJWSIX2QAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Bytes: 3191 Lines: 15 Ross Finlayson wrote: >> Note this is essentially the first time I agree with Hachel. I doubt >> that he understands why what he wrote is actually correct, because he >> followed it with a bunch of obfuscatory nonsense. >>> [... enormous amount of gibberish ignored.] Tom Roberts > > Can you help further explain for the rest of us why this isn't > necessarily the usual interpretation or why it sort of doesn't arrive at > the same results of some of the usual thought experiments like the > traveling twins? because the observer is apart from those paths through spacetime. Apart means distance in time and space. That's what an observer in physics is. You can make path coincide, but you have to be very careful, you fucking imbecile.