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From: Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
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Subject: Re: anti-gravity?
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:31:17 -0000 (UTC)
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Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 13:35:27 +0100, Martin Brown
> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 21/04/2024 01:11, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:31:19 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> jim whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:19:30 -0000 (UTC), jim whitby wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking for opinion of persons better educatrd than myself.
>>>>>> I do know how to spell... most of the time. educatded
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> .<https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-
> that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-
> earths-gravity/>
>>>> 
>>>> Then it should float in mid-air, or accelerate upward. So why does it
>>>> need to be tested in space?
> 
> Vacuum to get rid of corona.
> 
> Space (orbit really) so tiny forces can be detected and measured.  
> 
> A steady one G acceleration would be pretty impressive, and would
> settle the issue.
> 
> 
>> To avoid embarrassment when it doesn't actually work as claimed!
>>> 
>>> There’s no gravity gravy train if it gets debunked on the first day.
>>> What’s the use of that?
>> 
>> 
>> Surely it is yet another standard pump and dump models for dodgy fringe 
>> science IPOs much like the LENR scams that have been around for decades.
>> 
>> Some genuine engineers who didn't properly understand the physics of 
>> gyroscopes have famously announced their anti gravity machines.
>> 
>> Most notably one Eric Laithwaite who once gave the Royal Institution 
>> Xmas Lectures in 1966 on magnetic levitation and linear motors before he 
>> quite literally went off the rails in 1974.
>> 
>> <https://www.rigb.org/explore-science/explore/blog/gyroscope-engineer-and-christmas-lectures>
>> 
>> Great communicator with the public but not very good at physics.
> 
> Yeah.  Investment not recommended.
> 
> As for our asymmetrical capacitor fellow, there has to be some big
> errors in the derivation.  I watched part of his lecture, where he did
> note that this force endured even when the HV was turned off, and that
> it should therefore accelerate continuously.  Which it doesn't,
> despite his theory.  He knew that this was a problem, but figured that
> it was fixable.  Hmm.
> 
> That fellow reminds me of the inventor I met, described in the SED
> thread "Non-Inertial Navigation Technology" (July 2020).  That company
> still exists, and he still toils away.  I don't know where the money
> comes from.
> 
> Joe Gwinn
> 

And then there was the Dean drive, which worked by rattling a mass back and
forth inside a vehicle. 

The tabletop demo went perfectly. ;)

Cheers 

Phil Hobbs 



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