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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server,sci.crypt
Subject: Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:44:23 GMT
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On a sunny day (Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:12:13 +0100) it happened Yamn Remailer
<noreply@mixmin.net> wrote in <20240422.221213.b8e85811@mixmin.net>:

>Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>On Mon 22 Apr 2024 3:05 pm, SugarBug wrote:
>
>>> If you trust any third-party server to protect your privacy, you're a rube.
>> If you trust electronic comms you're a rube. Security is offline.
>
>I doubt it.  Offline, which means non-virtual interaction by
>exchanging physical media, inevitably leaves much more traces than
>electronic communication, to be exact asynchronous anonymous onion
>routing as done with a combination of Tor & Mixmaster / YAMN.  Just
>think of fingerprints or DNA contamination of communication media, the
>kind of paper, ink or printer and toner you use, the postoffice that
>took delivery of your letter and so on.  And I've no idea how to
>create an anonymous real world reply channel as offered by our
>nymservers.  No, provided that your device isn't compromised anonymous
>remailing is the best we have, state of the art in this field.

With 2 TB micro SD cards homing pigeons are good for lots of data in a short time.
Of course adversaries can target the pigeon holders,
The next step is to add the info to the DNA of animals...
or just to the regular mail or objects as contamination..
;-)