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On 22/04/2024 11:40, Daniel70 wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote on 21/4/24 10:45 am:
>> On 21/04/2024 01:21, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <xn0okt4k1cdpbe1000@post.eweka.nl>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Morbius is winning the game because his faces are on the
>>>>>> screen indicating that the more past regenerations you have
>>>>>> had the stronger your mind becomes in the game. Hinchcliffe
>>>>>> didn't write the story, it was Dicks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Holmes re-wrote the script as you well know and it was
>>>>> the intent of the Production team of that story that those
>>>>> were the faces of the Doctor. When you watched "The Brain of
>>>>> Morbius" as a child, that was the intent behind that scene.
>>>>> This is a simple fact that has been mentioned many times
>>>>> over the years by members of the production team (whose
>>>>> faces they actually were) and it is easily researched.
>>>>>
>>>>> Terrance Dicks - like some fans - did not like the idea of
>>>>> pre-Hartnell Doctors, so revised it in his novelisation. So
>>>>> yes, in the Target novel they are the faces of Morbius.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been plenty of interviews with Uncle Terrance over
>>>>> the years where he explained why he changed it. But him not
>>>>> liking the idea of pre-Hartnell Doctors is the short
>>>>> version! He was aware of the original intent behind that
>>>>> scene in the episode though and has often talked about it.
>>>>
>>>> I go with 4 Doctors taking on Morbius!
>>>
>>> You can take from that scene whatever you like... it doesn't
>>> change the way the scene was conceived. There is no Doctor Who
>>> bible so whatever works for you and your enjoyment of the show
>>> is fine. We are all free to make our own head-canon.
>>
>> What there is are established facts. No regenerations existed before 
>> Hartnell as stated by Hartnell in The Tenth Planet and the 1st Doctor 
>> in The Five Doctors.
> 
> Hey, Aggy, in "An Unearthly Child" or any of the other William Hartnell 
> Episodes, did DoctorBill state that he was the First Incarnation of The 
> Doctor or that he could, in fact, regenerate (pick a number, any number) 
> of times at all?? Did he mention that ability at any time during his 
> reign??

It was implied from the very beginning that the character Hartnell 
played was like any other human, other than the fact that he was a 
fugitive from another world, as was his biological grand daughter Susan.

> 
> Or was this "ability" ONLY mentioned AFTER Bill Hartnell had left??

His possession of ability to perform bodily renewal is stated by 
Hartnell in at the end of The Tenth Planet, as is the fact that he did 
not know if it would work since he'd never had to perform it before, 
just before he is shown to rejuvenate himself. Troughton was intended to 
be a de-aged version of Hartnell.

When Troughton is interrogated by the Time Lords at the end of The War 
Games no past forms of the Doctor are shown except those of Troughton 
and Hartnell. In The Three Doctors it is also demonstrated that there 
are were only ever 3 incarnations of the Doctor at this time, and 
Hartnell was the earliest. Same goes for The Five Doctors. Same goes for 
the Doctor's memories in The Family of Blood. Same goes for The Eleventh 
Hour. Same goes for Listen. Same goes for Twice Upon A Time.

-- 
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it 
stands for." -William Shatner