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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:56:57 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 26 Message-ID: <v093qd$1qaei$1@dont-email.me> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <uvulr4$36plc$1@dont-email.me> <stohwU8_tXR1lFqmbIJKGgksu_Q@jntp> <v00upr$3pm7b$1@dont-email.me> <ZBi4zgLNiT37UPa-AXe7ZNaUYVk@jntp> <v01ggs$3tc37$1@dont-email.me> <L2UhMbkkW3TeMvDoHPdBrhXFsds@jntp> <v068oc$137lt$1@dont-email.me> <hJLbsBln3PsUHAxhjVb27EqPUbo@jntp> <v090b6$1ph3s$1@dont-email.me> <QrfMhZS5r9QSREW0yg-NA62Wt2g@jntp> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="af2501f9e10221884f009691c409ad24"; logging-data="1911250"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18zf015whm50o3tGAXK64VBWPlHJ9Dk4/Y=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:zK+dliCvYFUYcqeOt0M65qFln74= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2080 WM pretended : > Le 23/04/2024 à 20:57, FromTheRafters a écrit : >> WM was thinking very hard : >>> Le 22/04/2024 à 20:02, FromTheRafters a écrit : >>>> WM has brought this to us : >>>>> Le 21/04/2024 à 00:44, FromTheRafters a écrit : >>>>>> WM wrote : >>>>> >>>>>>>> What is a gap in the ordinals? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a not existing ordinal between two ordinals. It is a not >>>>>>> existing natural number next to ω, for instance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sets do not have not existing elements. >>>>> >>>>> What is ω - 1? >>>> >>>> An absurdity. >>> >>> Not more nor less than ω. >> >> What is the value of ω? > > It cannot be expressed in units as a finite initial segment of ℕ. It is a rank, not a value.