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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Narrow handlebars Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:57:23 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <v093r3$11r52$10@dont-email.me> References: <pHPVN.32354$moa7.3970@fx18.iad> <juQVN.720869$Tp2.58334@fx03.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1b3469c07d34baa3018c4675d4e880c"; logging-data="1109154"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+mgVQhokIttbl7T/TjuBwCmdzXuyEo24g=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WZI07fkeUOdvHJck+LAxIOA5QMI= In-Reply-To: <juQVN.720869$Tp2.58334@fx03.ams4> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3697 On 4/23/2024 11:30 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: > Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I just watched a podcast from Xyxling about the new trend in nattow bars >> and they backed ut up with extensice wind tunnel testibng. For those >> unaware of it, the UCI forbids the use of handlebars wth an outside to >> outside measurement of less than 36 cm, The nattow bar xcontinegent >> solves this by strongly tapering the handlebars out to the legal measurement. >> >> The wind tunneol findings were shicking and peoplke like Flunkiy who >> races should pay attention to them. At the lowest xpeed and sitting up in >> the normal highest racing position there is a savings of 17 watts. >> >> In other positions and higher speeds the savings can be as much as 50 >> watts implying that you can gain another 5 kph in some cases. >> >> Now, this has no general use since these are very uncomfortable to use. >> But the racing gains are so high that they equal ALL other aero savings >> on a bike. They do not seem to have any handling effects once you're used >> to them but for normal sport bike riders this does suggest that 38 mm >> norrmal drop bars aer worthwhile. >> > > I have seen/read reviews of such narrow bars, don’t recall being > uncomfortable though will by nature be a more extreme position and > certainly not bike fit right. I've ridden 38 cm bars almost exclusively since I got serious about cycling in the 80's. Anything wider and I feel like I'm riding with a drag chute. I can ride with 40's, but I'm more comfortable on 38's > > And yes narrow bars will effect handling, and is reported as such, though > also noted that it’s not dangerously bad as some might claim. > > It’s for Pro’s possibly worth it, for amateur the benefit over fit/handling > etc is unlikely to be worth it. The 'wide bar for better handling' is just a fashion trend imo, especially on MTB. I've never seen the need to ride bars wider than my shoulders. My Cdale came with 78 cm bars. I had never ridden anything over 600 before. I tried it for a few weeks - couldn't get used to it. I kept catching trees on tight single track and the longer movements from the wider radius to negotiate rocky technical trails took me off the bike several times. I cut them down to 60 and it was like riding a different (and much better handling) bike. I've had quite a few other MTB riders incredulously ask how I can stand riding with such narrow bars. I reply 'the same way you can stand riding wider bars'. > > Roger Merriman > > -- Add xx to reply