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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:47:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <v0a6ea$25g9k$1@dont-email.me> References: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <5451dcac941e1f569397a5cc7818f68f@www.novabbs.org> <hqmg2j1vbkf6suddfnsh3h3uhtkqqio4uk@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:47:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="91a34b43642a05499f88b93fb0e8ec6c"; logging-data="2277684"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cjMLZAex1nYxbzbx18By9McNVgbkN6ik=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Q0/7F0yHUvpq3A0k67qRZZTaUI= Bytes: 1933 John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> schrieb: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:14:32 +0000, mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) > wrote: > >>CRAY machines stayed "in style" as long as memory latency remained smaller >>than the length of a vector (64 cycles) and fell out of favor when the cores >>got fast enough that memory could no longer keep up. >> >>I whish them well, but I expect it will not work out as they desire..... > > I know that you've said this about Cray-style vectors. > > I had thought the cause was much simpler. As soon as chiips like the > 486 DX and then the Pentium II became available, The 486 came out in 1989. >a Cray-style machine > would have had to be implemented from smaller-scale integrated > circuits, so it would have been wildly uneconomic for the performance > it provided; The Cray C90 came out in 1991. That was still considered ecomomic by the people who bought it :-) The (low-level) competition for scientific computing at the time was workstations.