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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:06:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <v0dh12$2iai$2@gal.iecc.com> References: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <v0c1bc$2ihq5$10@dont-email.me> <u4pj2jhstattc43djog32gk3cfdl7as5ai@4ax.com> <v0cqbb$2ra8g$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:06:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="84306"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <v0c1bc$2ihq5$10@dont-email.me> <u4pj2jhstattc43djog32gk3cfdl7as5ai@4ax.com> <v0cqbb$2ra8g$2@dont-email.me> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 1997 Lines: 20 According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>: >On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 23:10:47 -0600, John Savard wrote: > >> One of the things that those supercomputers that _do_ include GPUs are >> praised for is being energy-efficient. > >That I never heard before. I heard it in relation to ARM CPUs, yes, GPUs, >no. NVIDIA says their new Blackwell GPU takes 2000 watts, and is between 7x and 25x more power efficient than the current H100, but that's still a heck of a lot of power. Data centers have had to come up with higher capacity power and cooling when each rack can use 40 to 50KW. I mean, my entire house is wired for 24KW and usually runs at more like 4KW including a heat pump that heats the house. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly