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From: Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-18 (Thursday)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:24:37 -0700
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On 4/25/2024 3:35 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 4/22/2024 12:33 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:09:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:56:09 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2024 7:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:38:44 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I watched another animated flick JUSTICE LEAGUE vs THE FATAL FIVE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In this movie we have a trio of bad guys from the future travel into
>>>>>>>>>>> the past to free two of their group that are trapped in a prison in
>>>>>>>>>>> the time of the Justice League. A hero from the future also manages to
>>>>>>>>>>> travel into the past to stop them but he has a fatal weakness. He
>>>>>>>>>>> needs regular doses of a drug or else he tends to forget who he is. A
>>>>>>>>>>> drug that doesn't exist in the JL time. So he forgets most of his
>>>>>>>>>>> mission other than that there is a Fatal Five and that he needs to
>>>>>>>>>>> find the Limelight before getting locked away in a mental institution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it new that he’s insane? For that matter is it new that Jessica Cruz is
>>>>>>> insane?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know. Not familiar with either of those characters. Perhaps
>>>>>> they were introduced to the comics after I quit reading them. Much
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Boy has been around since 1961. :-) Originally he had all of Superboy
>>>>> powers plus the ability to increase the mass of objects to get around the
>>>>> duplicate powers rule. Somewhere along the line, he lost the Superboy
>>>>> powers wiki says he’s gone through several incarnations and costume changes
>>>>> and race swaps. Apparently he’s been insane since the 2006 version which is
>>>>> well after I stopped reading the Legion.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, don't recall ever having heard of him. If he was just in Legion
>>>> books then that might explain it.
>>>
>>> Wiki talks of storylines where he visited the 20th century, but, yeah, I
>>> only know him from Legion books.
>>>
>>>
>>> I was never a huge comic book fan as
>>>> I just didn't have the money to buy more than a rare comic book when I
>>>> was young enough to really want to read them. Then as I got older I
>>>> was more into reading science fiction books. So the only comics I've
>>>> read in decades were those that JMS joined in on.
>>>
>>> OMG I am so terribly terribly sorry. :-(
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jessica Cruz has only been around for 10 years, long after I stopped
>>>>> reading the Legion. I was puzzled as to why I knew who she was until I
>>>>> finally recalled that someone I know cosplay as her
>>>> Good reason to remember the character.
>>>
>>> Yep. That was making me crazy briefly trying to figure out why I knew this
>>> character, but couldn’t place her in any stories!
>>>
>>> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw1e254ZrKl9qrrM3cWT_WiOkdH3UTK-xMRPk067VrRA&s
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wikipedia says that this was a fairly faithful version, except that it was
>>>>> darkseid that Smashed her ring and killed her and the ring brought her back
>>>>> more powerful than before
>>>>
>>>> So if the ring can do that why didn't it do it for anyone else?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The wiki is very confusing. But apparently in the original stories, the
>>> character has a ring that isn’t a standard issue green lantern ring, but
>>> either has a different source or origin, or has been changed by contact
>>> with previous owners.  So it was a one time thing for her that wouldn’t
>>> happen with the standard power ring and doesn’t really make sense when they
>>> grafted the events of another story and another ring onto this one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> like with Hal Jordan turning truly evil in that other animated flick.
>>>>>> That was never my Hal Jordan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually remember that from the comics, but yeah, that was not my Hal
>>>>> Jordan either
>>>>
>>>> So they actually did that in the comics? Nothing like destroying a
>>>> beloved character. Guess that was a new writer pissing on the ground
>>>> to mark his new territory.
>>>
>>> This is the classic cover
>>>
>>> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b87cf569f4014f95ebbcdf5098db0cf0-lq
>>>
>>> This Wikipedia article explains it and who, and what was behind it, and how
>>> they eventually tried to walk it back, and what animated movie to avoid if
>>> you don’t want to see it
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Twilight?wprov=sfti1
>>>
>>> Amazingly, I actually know two of the people involved in this and I didn’t
>>> realize it until now.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The story then proceeds from there as the trio of bad guys proceed to
>>>>>>>>>>> do bad things.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll leave the rest of the story for your enjoyment when watching the
>>>>>>>>>>> flick as it's a good story. There are some bits that didn't make sense
>>>>>>>>>>> within the story like an axe that can cut Superman but doesn't cut
>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword but it was still an enjoyable watch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword is magic and blessed by Hephaestus.  I guess
>>>>>>>>>> Hephaestus is tougher than the Persuader.  Nominally the atomic ax can cut
>>>>>>>>>> through anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, *nothing* cuts or breaks that lasso. Period!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would watch this but once again nothing is free on Apple TV. $3.99 to
>>>>>>>> rent, $12.99 to buy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The gray web to the rescue! Thank you, Al Gore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was OK. It wasn’t as good as the newer stuff that I’ve praised that
>>>>>>> looks to be 3-D for 2-D. But it balances that out by having the older voice
>>>>>>> cast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m completely confused by the continuity. The justice league that had
>>>>>>> Supergirl certainly knew about the Legion. But these guys don’t.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I take it we actually see the end of the green lantern corp in this movie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't know why it ends but they clearly aren't around in this
>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t know who the Legion we see at the end of the movie is, but it’s
>>>>>>> certainly not the Legion we saw the beginning. Jessica Cruz thanks for them
>>>>>>> for coming to the funeral because the dead guy thought so highly of them.
>>>>>>> But in fact, the dead guy never would’ve met these people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean? Those are among the people that he worked with.
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s a completely different Saturn girl/Saturn Queen at the end than it
>>>>> was in the beginning. I wouldn’t even have known who it was if she didn’t
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