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From: Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
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Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 04:30:43 -0400
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In article <v0ec7v$36anb$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
> On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:
>> On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> "super70s"  <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the 
>>>>>>> jaw.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead 
>>>>>> Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>>> 
>>>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
>>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
>>>>> her own hood.
>>>> 
>>>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand 
>>>> their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now 
>>>> Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free 
>>>> Palestine".
>>>> 
>>>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If 
>>>> you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is 
>>>> there in making him say it?
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
>>> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
>>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
>>> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
>>> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
>>> Palestine!"
>>> 
>>>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it 
>>>> because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures 
>>>> you'll go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut 
>>>> up, not because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or 
>>>> anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him. 
>>>> What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the 
>>>> point?
>>> 
>>> The clicks are all that matters.
>>> 
>>>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst 
>>>> into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand
>>>> that they say "black lives matter".
>>> 
>>> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
>>> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
>>> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
>>> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.
>>> 
>>>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. 
>>>> It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. 
>>>> You *must* say the words they want regardless of whether you believe 
>>>> them or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
>>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over 
>>>> you. If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any 
>>>> power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in 
>>>> because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have 
>>>> bright line evidence of the power they wield.
>>> 
>>> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
>>> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
>>> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
>>> war.
>> 
>> I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".
>
>I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing 
>"ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

Your understanding is wrong.

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Let's go Brandon!