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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:03:19 -0400
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On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>   On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>   BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin 
>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>   https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called 
>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
>>>>>>>>   Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
>>>>>>>>   "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the 
>>>>>>>> RUST movie
>>>>>>>>   set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination.
>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
>>>>>>>>   redistributed."
>>>>>>>   There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her 
>>>>>>> but says
>>>>>>>   nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot 
>>>>> scumbag you
>>>>> have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video 
>>>>> that makes
>>>>> me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec 
>>>>> Baldwin
>>>>> video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, 
>>>>> revulsion,
>>>>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say 
>>>>> anything that
>>>>> would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the 
>>>>> benefit of the
>>>>> doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to 
>>>>> squander that
>>>>> advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as 
>>>>> humanly
>>>>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, 
>>>>> really,
>>>>> quite an achievement.
>>>>
>>>> It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where 
>>>> Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own 
>>>> home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but 
>>>> even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's 
>>>> message.
>>>
>>>
>>> I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine 
>>> about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the 
>>> gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may 
>>> now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by 
>>> your standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming 
>>> up with fifty million?
>>
>> The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man evoked 
>> an instinctive viewer-response that transcended policy/politics.  It 
>> was a simple failure of technique, costly to his persuasiveness.
> 
> 
> Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole 
> doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't 
> either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, and 
> Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying.  Fuck 
> you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I used to 
> hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching this thing 
> they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids 
> about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was back in the early 
> 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a lobbying organization so 
> the gun industry could profit by selling more and more guns.  They are 
> scum.  If you don't get this I feel sorry for you.

I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.