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Subject: Re: Install iOS 17.4.1 now to patch 2 new zero-day vulnerabilities
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 22:11:04 -0000 (UTC)
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In comp.mobile.ipad Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-04-25 05:37, Enrico Papaloma wrote:
>>> On 4/24/2024 9:36 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>>> The advice is that these iOS zero-day holes that Apple didn't find are so
>>>>> severe, the recommendation is for iPhone owners to update even if they 
>>>>> were
>>>>> intending to wait for iOS 17.5 before running yet another update cycle.
>>>>
>>>> There's no reason to wait that long to install updates.
>>>
>>> But a lot of people do wait, for a variety of reasons, not the least of
>>> which is the way iPhones are updated can cause a variety of slowdowns.
>>>
>>>>> These are the 2 0-day holes that Google found that Apple missed in 
>>>>> testing.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why all updates should be installed. Doesn't matter which OS.
>>>
>>> One smartphone OS does "seamless updates" where the user isn't even aware
>>> that updates are happening due to A/B partitions. Sadly iOS isn't that OS.
>>> https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-check-android-device-supports-seamless-updates/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> But iOS is getting better with the advent of real patches in iOS 16 so
>>> maybe Apple will add the seamless updates that the other has enjoyed for
>>> years (where the OS updates monthly without the user even knowing it).
>> 
>> These "features" are actually not missed on iOS by the vast majority of users.
> 
> Exactly. Many of us just use apple stuff as an appliance. We are not Super 
> USERS. We are not Apple cult fans.

+1 this. I've used Android and Apple phones/tablets. NEITHER was ever
intended as a power-user device. Phones and tablets fall very much in
the "appliance" category for me (AppleIance?). I did try to do photo
editing and organization and use the iPad as primary computing device
for a while. It was not very successful, mostly because the organization
aspect was very lacking.

I ended up with Apple devices because I got tired of the various
annoyances with Android, because I at best tolerate Windows, and Linux
doesn't really cut it for the photo editing side of things.
iOS/iPadOS/MacOS solved some of those annoyances, but
the trade off is different annoyances. I can live with them.


> The apple walled garden works fairly well for us. We are not trying to 
> destroy apple. We do not care about the minutia of apple's imarket, istock 
> prices, isales statistics ... nor any other ibullshit.

Exactly. Nothing I choose to do with a tablet or phone is limited by
being within a walled garden. For those, I just want them to work
reasonably well when they need to.

The real work gets done on the Mac, or my work Windows laptop, or a
small BSD virtual machine which runs the "old school" stuff like 'tin'
newsreader in a terminal (and I can login to that from the iPad or
iPhone if I want to, even remotely over a VPN).

If I want to tinker around with a system, I've got plenty of them to
choose from that are capable of such, and can emulate just about
anything I feel like on the Mac.


> This group seems dedicated to quarreling over apple's statistical minutia, 
> and trading sophomoric insults.

I just came back to Usenet after probably 25 years away. Such it was
then, such it remains (just with fewer people left to flame each other).
Oh well. :)

-- 
Paul.