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Subject: Re: Install iOS 17.4.1 now to patch 2 new zero-day vulnerabilities
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On 2024-04-26 22:11:04 +0000, paul@paulglover.net.invalid said:

> In comp.mobile.ipad Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-25 05:37, Enrico Papaloma wrote:
>>>> On 4/24/2024 9:36 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> The advice is that these iOS zero-day holes that Apple didn't find are so
>>>>>> severe, the recommendation is for iPhone owners to update even if they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> intending to wait for iOS 17.5 before running yet another update cycle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There's no reason to wait that long to install updates.
>>>> 
>>>> But a lot of people do wait, for a variety of reasons, not the least of
>>>> which is the way iPhones are updated can cause a variety of slowdowns.
>>>> 
>>>>>> These are the 2 0-day holes that Google found that Apple missed in
>>>>>> testing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is why all updates should be installed. Doesn't matter which OS.
>>>> 
>>>> One smartphone OS does "seamless updates" where the user isn't even aware
>>>> that updates are happening due to A/B partitions. Sadly iOS isn't that OS.
>>>> https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-check-android-device-supports-seamless-updates/ 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But iOS is getting better with the advent of real patches in iOS 16 so
>>>> maybe Apple will add the seamless updates that the other has enjoyed for
>>>> years (where the OS updates monthly without the user even knowing it).
>>> 
>>> These "features" are actually not missed on iOS by the vast majority of users.
>> 
>> Exactly. Many of us just use apple stuff as an appliance. We are not Super
>> USERS. We are not Apple cult fans.
> 
> +1 this. I've used Android and Apple phones/tablets. NEITHER was ever
> intended as a power-user device. Phones and tablets fall very much in
> the "appliance" category for me (AppleIance?). I did try to do photo
> editing and organization and use the iPad as primary computing device
> for a while. It was not very successful, mostly because the organization
> aspect was very lacking.
<snip>

Despite Apple's attempts to claim otherwise, the iPad is not and cannot 
be a computer replacement for many reasons. The main one being that fat 
fingers are a hopelessly inaccurate input device. The Pencil or similar 
stylus (that Steve Jobs abhored when the iPad first launched) make is a 
bit better, but your hands are still in the way of the display so it is 
still nowhere near as good as a mouse, trackpad, or separate graphics 
tablet.