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From: Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Install iOS 17.4.1 now to patch 2 new zero-day vulnerabilities
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 18:29:31 -0500
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paul@paulglover.net.invalid wrote:
> In comp.mobile.ipad Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2024-04-25 05:37, Enrico Papaloma wrote:
>>>> On 4/24/2024 9:36 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> The advice is that these iOS zero-day holes that Apple didn't find are so
>>>>>> severe, the recommendation is for iPhone owners to update even if they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> intending to wait for iOS 17.5 before running yet another update cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's no reason to wait that long to install updates.
>>>>
>>>> But a lot of people do wait, for a variety of reasons, not the least of
>>>> which is the way iPhones are updated can cause a variety of slowdowns.
>>>>
>>>>>> These are the 2 0-day holes that Google found that Apple missed in
>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is why all updates should be installed. Doesn't matter which OS.
>>>>
>>>> One smartphone OS does "seamless updates" where the user isn't even aware
>>>> that updates are happening due to A/B partitions. Sadly iOS isn't that OS.
>>>> https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-check-android-device-supports-seamless-updates/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But iOS is getting better with the advent of real patches in iOS 16 so
>>>> maybe Apple will add the seamless updates that the other has enjoyed for
>>>> years (where the OS updates monthly without the user even knowing it).
>>>
>>> These "features" are actually not missed on iOS by the vast majority of users.
>>
>> Exactly. Many of us just use apple stuff as an appliance. We are not Super
>> USERS. We are not Apple cult fans.
> 
> +1 this. I've used Android and Apple phones/tablets. NEITHER was ever
> intended as a power-user device. Phones and tablets fall very much in
> the "appliance" category for me (AppleIance?). I did try to do photo
> editing and organization and use the iPad as primary computing device
> for a while. It was not very successful, mostly because the organization
> aspect was very lacking.
> 
> I ended up with Apple devices because I got tired of the various
> annoyances with Android, because I at best tolerate Windows, and Linux
> doesn't really cut it for the photo editing side of things.
> iOS/iPadOS/MacOS solved some of those annoyances, but
> the trade off is different annoyances. I can live with them.
> 
> 
>> The apple walled garden works fairly well for us. We are not trying to
>> destroy apple. We do not care about the minutia of apple's imarket, istock
>> prices, isales statistics ... nor any other ibullshit.
> 
> Exactly. Nothing I choose to do with a tablet or phone is limited by
> being within a walled garden. For those, I just want them to work
> reasonably well when they need to.
> 
> The real work gets done on the Mac, or my work Windows laptop, or a
> small BSD virtual machine which runs the "old school" stuff like 'tin'
> newsreader in a terminal (and I can login to that from the iPad or
> iPhone if I want to, even remotely over a VPN).
> 
> If I want to tinker around with a system, I've got plenty of them to
> choose from that are capable of such, and can emulate just about
> anything I feel like on the Mac.
> 
> 
>> This group seems dedicated to quarreling over apple's statistical minutia,
>> and trading sophomoric insults.
> 
> I just came back to Usenet after probably 25 years away. Such it was
> then, such it remains (just with fewer people left to flame each other).
> Oh well. :)
> 

Yes. I think the majority of users get good service from their apple 
devices. I certainly do. Sometimes they might not work for a particular 
task, but I don't get upset, I just boot up a computer and do the job.

But I do not, and will not, religiously worship the company, join any 
cults, nor vigorously defend their every action. I just don't give a shit. 
It's just tool, an appliance.