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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Bicyclist decapitated
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:49:45 -0500
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On 4/27/2024 1:12 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:07:56 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/26/2024 10:44 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> Conventional wisdom suggests that if we ever meet extra-terrestrials
>>> with superior knowledge and technology, they will try to kill and eat
>>> us.  That's wrong.  They will probably try to sell us things that are
>>> eventually found to be a scam.
> 
>> So you think they're well established here already.
> 
> If you believe in panspermia:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia>
> then yes, they're already here.  Personally, I don't think we'll need
> to wait for the aliens to emerge.  We are already trying to create
> them with eugenics, gene splicing, GMO's etc and will likely create
> our own replacements.  Whether it will be human, insect, microbes,
> cyborgs, AI or other sci-fi horror is unknown.
> 
> So, what problem are we trying to solve?  Running out of food might be
> a good start.  However, we can start mining hydrocarbons (instead of
> burning them) which should delay that disaster.  Would you care for a
> coal tar burger?  I think the big problem will be global
> overpopulation.  Advancing technology has saved our collective
> posteriors for many centuries, but I don't believe that it will
> continue to do so.  Eventually, we will need to limit out population
> by means unknown.  It won't be pleasant and "having you for dinner"
> might become a commonly used phrase.  Also, notice that overpopulation
> is rarely discussed in the popular media.  Nobody wants to hear about
> impending doom, especially when there's no immediate solution.  I
> suppose the aliens might save us, but more likely, they'll take the
> easiest path and just eat us.
> 
> 

My comment was in reply to your, "They will probably try to 
sell us things that are eventually found to be a scam." We 
have a lot of those here!

Food is the least likely 'catastrophic' problem. World grain 
production rises every year on less land with less labor. 
Human innovation rocks.

Regarding overpopulation, the Cassandras haven't been so 
great on that either. All advanced countries suffer 
declining birth rates, many including USA below replacement. 
Regarding extreme solutions to 'impending doom', look at the 
results of Mao's One Child policy which has turned out very 
badly.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971