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Subject: Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook
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On 2024-04-26 08:30:43 +0000, Ubiquitous said:

> In article <v0ec7v$36anb$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
>> On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:
>>> On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> "super70s"  <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the
>>>>>>>> jaw.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead
>>>>>>> Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
>>>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
>>>>>> her own hood.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand
>>>>> their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now
>>>>> Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free
>>>>> Palestine".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If
>>>>> you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is
>>>>> there in making him say it?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
>>>> just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
>>>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
>>>> phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
>>>> use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
>>>> Palestine!"
>>>> 
>>>>> Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it
>>>>> because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures
>>>>> you'll go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut
>>>>> up, not because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or
>>>>> anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him.
>>>>> What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the
>>>>> point?
>>>> 
>>>> The clicks are all that matters.
>>>> 
>>>>> They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst
>>>>> into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand
>>>>> that they say "black lives matter".
>>>> 
>>>> My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
>>>> would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
>>>> their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
>>>> the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.
>>>> 
>>>>> Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation.
>>>>> It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons.
>>>>> You *must* say the words they want regardless of whether you believe
>>>>> them or not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
>>>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over
>>>>> you. If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any
>>>>> power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in
>>>>> because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have
>>>>> bright line evidence of the power they wield.
>>>> 
>>>> Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
>>>> feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
>>>> their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
>>>> war.
>>> 
>>> I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".
>> 
>> I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
>> "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.
> 
> Your understanding is wrong.

Well bubba, he certainly DID do ambush interviews for O'Reilly at one 
point, whether or not it was the beginning of his career at Fox News or 
in broadcasting in general I don't care enough about the sneering worm 
to look up.