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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:33:00 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <v0lq7d$14579$2@dont-email.me> References: <v0k4jc$laej$1@dont-email.me> <v0l11u$ussl$1@dont-email.me> <v0lh24$123q3$1@dont-email.me> <v0lic7$2g492$3@i2pn2.org> <v0lkas$12q0o$3@dont-email.me> <v0loq2$2g493$1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:33:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5b5cf6fc6ad4bf43d1327b7299fd7236"; logging-data="1185001"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nsGkmeqj7oQObd9ceI0o4" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kH1mVJCRhPmMdxAcuG19mQID2y4= In-Reply-To: <v0loq2$2g493$1@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2832 On 4/28/2024 10:08 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 4/28/24 9:52 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 4/28/2024 8:19 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 4/28/24 8:56 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 4/28/2024 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-28 00:17:48 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> Can D simulated by H terminate normally? >>>>> >>>>> One should not that "D simulated by H" is not the same as >>>>> "simulation of D by H". The message below seems to be more >>>>> about the latter than the former. In any case, it is more >>>>> about the properties of H than about the properties of D. >>>>> >>>> >>>> D specifies what is essentially infinite recursion to H. >>>> Several people agreed that D simulated by H cannot possibly >>>> reach past its own line 03 no matter what H does. >>> >>> Nope, it is only that if H fails to be a decider. >>> >> >> *We don't make this leap of logic. I never used the term decider* >> *We don't make this leap of logic. I never used the term decider* >> *We don't make this leap of logic. I never used the term decider* >> *We don't make this leap of logic. I never used the term decider* > > > You admit that people see that as being a claim about the Halting > Problem, and thus the implied definitons of the terms apply. > The only way to get people to understand that I am correct and thus not always ignore my words and leap to the conclusion that I must be wrong is to insist that they review every single detail of all of my reasoning one tiny step at a time. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer