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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad
Subject: Re: Install iOS 17.4.1 now to patch 2 new zero-day vulnerabilities
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:16:13 -0000 (UTC)
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Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:58:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>>> But the fact you said it means you don't actually do anything with that
>>> tablet or phone that Apple hasn't scripted for you because the walled
>>> garden very much is debilitating if you did.
>> 
>> "Debilitating" rofl
> 
> Again, if you only use the iPhone for basic things like playing games, then
> you won't notice how debilitating the walled garden truly is when you want
> to do things that everyone else does without even thinking about doing it.

Such as? Millions of people use iphones for work and not just play games.
None of them feel "debilitated". 

>>> It's like someone who thinks the earth revolves around the moon isn't
>>> actually ever going to get a spaceship to the moon thinking that way.
>> 
>> How many people fly to the moon...?
> 
> The number of things that every operating system except iOS does that iOS
> doesn't do is so large that it's debilitating to use an iPhone after you've
> used Android with any other operating system, including Linux & Windows.

Do you think iphone owners have never used other operating systems? Most,
if not all, will be familiar with windows, macOS or linux and yet they
still keep buying expensive, "debilitated" phones. 

>>> Because the number of rather useful things that everyone else can do but
>>> which the walled garden prevents you from doing is absolutely astounding.
>> 
>> "Everyone else" being tech nerds who like to tinker. Everyone else truly
>> just want something that works for Snapchat, tiktok and instagram.
> 
> What if you want to plug any phone you want into any Windows or Linux PC
> you want where you can copy files back and forth to anywhere you want?

Only a tiny number of people want to do that.