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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!epsilon3.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom Subject: Re: MT VOID, 04/26/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 43, Whole Number 2325 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:05:55 -0500 Organization: very little if any Lines: 51 Message-ID: <v0mvaa$1g5sg$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> References: <v0ln1v$13hhn$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 04:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: epsilon3.eternal-september.org; posting-host="62a207298bad729c2e63b950d86d738f"; logging-data="1578896"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+b0xrhla/UKV23eabITSQjOWmk46HdYOM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:wcziaUc8YFYJOpRheu63l9DwJwE= X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 240428-6, 4/28/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <v0ln1v$13hhn$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3867 On 4/28/2024 9:38 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote: > The Guys at "Classical Stuff You Should Know" have gotten to > Richard III in their seemingly endless history of the Plantagenets > (sixteen episodes so far, by my count), and the next episode will > presumably cover Richard's short reign and thus end the series. > So it is time to plug TO PROVE A VILLAIN edited by Taylor > Littleton and Robert R. Rea (MacMillan, ISBN 978-0-023-71360-6). > This is, I believe, the go-to source for those of us who do not > have access to the British Library and various monkish archives. > It contains the full texts of William Shakespeare's RICHARD III > and Josephine Tey's THE DAUGHTER OF TIME, as well as extracts from: > - Shakespeare's "HENRY VI, PART 3)" > - Sir Thomas More's "The History of King Richard the III" > - Polydore Vergil's "English History" > - the Abbey of Croyland's "Chronicle" > - John Dolamn, Francis Seager, and Thomas Churchyard's "A Mirror > for Magistrates" > - Raphael Holinshed's "Chronicles" > - Sir Francis Bacon's "History of the Reign of the Henry VII" > - Horace Walpole's "Historic Doubts on the Life and Reign of King > Richard the Third" > - Charles Dickens's "A Child's History of England" > - Clements R. Markham's "Richard III: A Doubtful Verdict Reviewed" > - J. Dover Wilson's "A Note on Richard III" > - A. R. Meyers's "The Character of Richard III" > > People who have read THE DAUGHTER OF TIME will find a lot of > familiar arguments in Markham's article (and vice versa). I > suspect it was one of Tey's main sources. > > I have written extensive comments about the whole Richard III > controversy in the MT VOID (09/19/16 and 08/04/23), which can be > found at > <http://leepers.us/evelyn/reviews/churchill.htm#englishspeaking> > beginning with Winston Churchill's comments, which are not > included in TO PROVE A VILLAIN, quite possibly for copyright > reasons. Funny. Reading this as I'm watching a movie on Netflix, which just happens to be _The Lost King_ In 2012, after having been lost for over 500 years, the remains of King Richard III were discovered beneath a car park in Leicester. The search had been orchestrated by an amateur historian, Philippa Langley, whose unrelenting research had been met with incomprehension by her friends and family and with skepticism by experts and academics. THE LOST KING is the life-affirming true story of a woman who refused to be ignored and who took on the country's most eminent historians, forcing them to think again about one of the most controversial kings in England's history.