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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Self-evidently I am not my grandpa Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 21:25:22 +1000 Message-ID: <v0o032$5j35$1@solani.org> References: <v0hvp5$25uj$1@solani.org> <v0nmc7$1kvn0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 11:25:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="183397"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Of5qyj+04vvFpr0cXQDkT/8LkjQ= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLMMJTOYUS/xJ25xYakwgPOJ3Fs6yy0gG5NSO5Nx7BPp/m1d11hTx2f0ynJafQks8g+AF/sBZp In-Reply-To: <v0nmc7$1kvn0$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2355 Lines: 39 Well I forgot to say, that only first order logic with equality, FOL=, is available. How would you define ancestor? Barb Knox schrieb: > On 27/04/2024 16:43, Mild Shock wrote: >> Lets take this "truth": >> >>> Quine explains, “No bachelor is married,” where >> the meaning of the word ‘bachelor’ is synonymous >> with the meaning of the word ‘unmarried.’ However, >> we can make this kind of analytic claim into a >> logical truth (as defined above) by replacing >> ‘bachelor’ with its synonym, that is, ‘unmarried man,’ >> to get “No unmarried man is married,” which is an >> instance of No not-X is X. >> >> Then examine this "truth": >> >> Lets say you build a Prolog family database and >> make definitions for father, grand-father etc.. >> Will this Prolog family database exclude: >> >> "Im my own grandpa" > > If you want it to. The additional rule needed is that X can not be an > ancestor of X. > > -- > --------------------------- > | BBB b \ Barbara at LivingHistory stop co stop uk > | B B aa rrr b | > | BBB a a r bbb | Quidquid latine dictum sit, > | B B a a r b b | altum videtur. > | BBB aa a r bbb | > ----------------------------- >