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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Bicyclist decapitated Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:28:41 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <v0olc9$1pt1u$7@dont-email.me> References: <2JPWN.1516$fkxe.575@fx43.iad> <vfkn2j9qhsh795e9l4heqlg7hv37pm6vs3@4ax.com> <P6SWN.2$hPj9.0@fx08.iad> <bj1o2jtt1tfksrb3ad8ba65b6q2p75ckad@4ax.com> <v0h2ao$3stc4$1@dont-email.me> <tk9o2j5o1oq9k4iaet4loqoiphkj2164fj@4ax.com> <v0hm4i$13vh$1@dont-email.me> <pjro2jp9b6mi3m8pf61k7d6pockghceevo@4ax.com> <v0ipqs$bp76$2@dont-email.me> <53fq2jhilk6oedbglp8bj1t7h7olvg7nom@4ax.com> <v0jod7$imeb$1@dont-email.me> <fl4t2jhj8clmir6pddqkdh0ftip2p7ir07@4ax.com> <v0m831$17i67$1@dont-email.me> <ad3u2j1k0qt686jtopldv5secnu7a92i9t@4ax.com> <v0oh9b$1r98l$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:28:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fb352f8bb5d5481b8c8ff06086fa768f"; logging-data="1897534"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Hy2/9AFd3l5CEohYYC4m04W6SKhy+aak=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:n1VFK/wkXy/OC93p3C+/g5nva94= In-Reply-To: <v0oh9b$1r98l$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2873 On 4/29/2024 12:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 4/28/2024 11:40 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> >> I beg to partially differ. If we assume that all the known elements >> are present in roughly the same distributions throughout the universe, >> there's a good chance that self-replicating life processes will be >> built using the same elements as on planet Earth. "Carbon atoms are >> unique because they can bond together to form very long, durable >> chains that can have branches or rings of various sizes and often >> contain thousands of carbon atoms." >> <https://www.nature.com/articles/139290a0.pdf> >> The emergence of life is possible with comparatively inferior elements >> but the main building block will mostly likely be a stable atom that >> will build the strongest and move versatile bonds to other atoms. > > Agreed. I confess to low talent for chemistry. But I've not yet heard of > a detailed proposal for a chemistry of life built on anything but carbon. > > If someone here has such a proposal, I'd happily run it by the chemists > in our family. https://www.space.com/alien-life-not-carbon-based-autocatalysis-common No offense to anyone in your family, but this goes far beyond plain ole chemistry > -- Add xx to reply