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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 10:19:54 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <v0tmiq$37lgj$2@dont-email.me> References: <uvq0sg$21m7a$1@dont-email.me> <uvs70t$1h01f$1@i2pn2.org> <uvsgcl$2i80k$1@dont-email.me> <uvsj4v$1h01e$1@i2pn2.org> <uvubo2$34nh3$1@dont-email.me> <uvvsap$3i5q8$1@dont-email.me> <v00mf6$3nu0r$1@dont-email.me> <v02gu5$6quf$1@dont-email.me> <v038om$bitp$2@dont-email.me> <v05b0k$sivu$1@dont-email.me> <v05r5e$vvml$2@dont-email.me> <v05vl4$1165d$1@dont-email.me> <v0679k$12sq2$1@dont-email.me> <v07r2j$1h57l$1@dont-email.me> <v08gn4$1lpta$2@dont-email.me> <v0ag7u$27jkb$1@dont-email.me> <v0b8np$2d4ja$1@dont-email.me> <v0d372$2t7ec$1@dont-email.me> <v0do5i$31mkn$1@dont-email.me> <v0frdr$3jhng$1@dont-email.me> <v0gka2$3pm6f$1@dont-email.me> <v0idnn$91b6$1@dont-email.me> <v0ivqh$d40l$1@dont-email.me> <v0l3a0$vanr$1@dont-email.me> <v0lin5$12ip9$1@dont-email.me> <v0np15$1llt9$1@dont-email.me> <v0ob1e$1pbn5$7@dont-email.me> <v0ocuq$1qcqi$1@dont-email.me> <v0odv3$1qgpk$1@dont-email.me> <v0qmi5$2eont$1@dont-email.me> <v0r4tg$2hb7o$8@dont-email.me> <v0t0n4$32utt$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 01 May 2024 17:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3f141e693eb79f63ff43fad97c070154"; logging-data="3397139"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Zpa8PWKGY8bEQlR+kdDW8" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GbrFqY5Fr1guLoNO63h/SGdS8ow= In-Reply-To: <v0t0n4$32utt$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4101 On 5/1/2024 4:06 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-04-30 16:06:08 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 4/30/2024 7:01 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-04-29 15:22:11 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 4/29/2024 10:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-04-29 14:32:13 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/29/2024 4:24 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-04-28 13:24:52 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Translated into a syllogism: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All A are True >>>>>>>> No A are True >>>>>>>> Therefore B >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which inference rule of syllogistic logic permits that inference? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) That is a correct translation from this POE argument: >>>>>> Proposition A is True. >>>>>> Proposition A is False. >>>>>> Therefore B >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion >>>>>> >>>>>> (2) That as a syllogism it is the non-sequitur error proves >>>>>> that the POE was the non-sequitur error all along. >>>>> >>>>> What you call a "syllogism" isn't one as it has none of the forms >>>>> of valid syllogism as listed by Aristotle. >>>>> >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_proposition >>> >>> That page does not tell what a syllogism is. Instead, the page >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism >>> does. >>> >> >> This is the part of the page on syllogism that links to that link >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism#Basic_structure > > THat's right. That section says what the form of a syllogism is. > Your "syllogism" has not that form. > *This part is correct* Each part is a categorical proposition, and each categorical proposition contains two categorical terms. *This part is incorrect only because the POE expression is incorrect* "Each of the premises has one term in common with the conclusion:" By retaining the same lack of a common term as the POE expression we see that the POE expression has the non-sequitur error. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer