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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: An HDR monitor is a big upgrade Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:34:57 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <v1019h$3rkmp$1@dont-email.me> References: <45cq2jheh5ucoka6k4tgp23miftbc4p04q@4ax.com> <v0obul$1q442$1@dont-email.me> <sm0plu4ct4y.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 14:34:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f5369d6eb459f658b81b810762a43f8"; logging-data="4051673"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/lit7mlGfZwexOwyOBSnhw" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GO2Y6bXDWM6FnI3+f3AHzPLHZAQ= In-Reply-To: <sm0plu4ct4y.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> Bytes: 2921 Am 02.05.24 um 14:09 schrieb Anssi Saari: > "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> writes: > >> Yes proper HDR is a huge upgrade if the HDR range and brightness is >> good enough, cheap hdr monitors usually do not get enough brightness >> level to really be called it HDR, so many monitors basically have HDR >> slapped on top and can only deliver if at all HDR 400 or less with >> those you only will see small differences, add on top of that that you >> wont get proper black and white contrasts due to not having any >> dimming whatsoever. > > So is this "proper HDR" now generally available in gaming monitors? > When I bought a new monitor a few years ago, an AOC AG273QS3R4, it was > one of the few that had any kind of HDR and high refresh rates and Gsync > compatible too. So now it's "only" HDR 400 so nothing much HDR at all? > > Still, I thought it's pretty cool in the few games that actually have > HDR. Well good hdr is defined by several factors, peak brightness and contrast and color gamut, but yes most HDR monitors just plaster HDR on top because they can make more money that way, they definitely lack peak brightness and of course also contrast because their dimming is subpar! OLEDs had a problem with peak brightnes until a few years ago but they were top notch oin the other areas, now with OLED displays being able to reach 1500nits plus they defintely have caught up. Regarding dimming, OLED does not have this problem, LCDs have especially with the border backlight most LCDs provide, you wont get the contrast which you would need because they have almost no dimming. But we are speaking about a nice to have feature here, if you do not have real HDR, nothing is lacking, you just get a slightly worse image quality in the sense of less contrast brightness!