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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF? Date: 2 May 2024 15:22:45 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 58 Message-ID: <v10i4r.fhs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> References: <g5udnXdFRadBELT7nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> <l99k2aFgv11U1@mid.individual.net> <GFCdnY2VDdebra37nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <l9boniFqrkeU1@mid.individual.net> <v0qmai.q1s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <uZ2cnaiun7PRSa37nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <l9c5cuFskm3U1@mid.individual.net> <v0r4l3.l5k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <cpadnT0Al5quwKz7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <v0tbbm.9b8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <JNacnfM2QfW_4a77nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> X-Trace: individual.net fGoRi7ANqT9g/BK4l9H7VA2E8nd4a7gL2Jvk97VFtQ3ZIIyiEI X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:Azyvno9NmznzdDlxP/RzRhI6aA4= sha256:p3rc8F95+R7VDSzQubZ/UyNowoFXGb0Ed9ueRT9+18w= User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 Bytes: 4507 bad?sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote: > On 5/1/24 06:08, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > bad?sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote: > >> On 4/30/24 10:01, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > [...] > > > >>> My take is that 'bad sector' just wants to ramble/vent. > >> > >> Not really, what I want is CHANGE. The BlackBerry had not only real > >> buttons but chicklety ones extremely well engineeered for that positive > >> feel. My son had one, they *were disappeared* just when I was getting > >> set to buy one! I had to do with a basic cell-phone with no texto even. > >> I did what I needed done but a while ago it packed up so I wanted to buy > >> another one like it but with texto capability. My provider said > >> "FORGET-IT, we've been keeping your special low-end account for as long > >> as you phone would last, now it's NOT renewable anymore". So I went and > >> bought this android zFlip5 but it's a giga-letdown for too many reasons > >> to mention and I think I will get rid of it. I can live without a > >> cell-phone, my take is that demand will eventually force design > >> improvements as well as open source non-proprietary OS'es developed by > >> units walking on two legs. Meanwhile I call a spade a spade and I will > >> let no apple, faecesbook or goongle steer my life, they already have way > >> too much influence on my bowel movements. > >> > >> tinyurl.com/3s7bkhw7 > > > > As I've said to others with similar needs/wants/complaints: > > > > Buy a 'dumb'/'feature' phone and be done with it. They still have real > > keys/ buttons. have SMS capability and can work on modern 4G (and of > > course 2G and 3G) networks. Problem solved. > > Other than satellite, where I live there are only 3 providers one of > which (Bell) doesn't even have my physical address in their data base so > when I call them they say "you do not exist". The other big one (Telus) > is the only major that is available on paper but with only 4g service > and so poor as to make the entire idea of a cell-phone laughable, > tethering is a joke that NEVER works. The third one is a discount arm of > Telus selling their crap for a few pennies less. I'm only saying this to > put things into perspective. Telus as I said will NOT renew my old > plane-jane service for a plain-jane flip phone fare, I have no choice > but to go with the minimal but hefty price of full 5g and tethering > package very little of which could I use with ANY phone and almost none > of which with less. Bottom line, if I have service at all be that > minimally high-end on paper, I might as well have the phone for it. If you tell the audience where (about) you live, they probably can give you some sensible and reasonable cost alternative providers, possibly/probably 'even' some prepaid ones. Meanwhile we in the read world - meaning non-US or maybe non-NA - have no such problems. How I use or do not use my phone is no-one's business, I only pay my provider(s) for what I need/use. End of story. > Problem 'solving' would BEGIN with stomping on the manufacturers' and > providers' balls with both feet and forcing them into line or lose their > market or licenses. Unfortunately our barbie-boy leader always sits with > his legs crossed.