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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Threads across programming languages Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 08:45:58 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <v12175$d305$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> References: <GIL-20240429161553@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v0ogum$1rc5n$1@dont-email.me> <v0ovvl$1ur12$4@dont-email.me> <v0p06i$1uq6q$5@dont-email.me> <v0shti$2vrco$2@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0spsh$31ds4$3@dont-email.me> <v0stic$325kv$3@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0svtn$32o8h$1@dont-email.me> <v0t091$32qj6$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v0u90h$3c1r5$4@dont-email.me> <v0v28q$3ku1r$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v1176k$4at1$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 08:45:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c030ccadbcaefe746bb34fa5f5a5f34a"; logging-data="429061"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19+miOz8Pqh4MOue3VLB2ySLzNkQoGXSxw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vT5zFYNSG1px9apXyTax5hAspiQ= In-Reply-To: <v1176k$4at1$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 3215 Am 03.05.2024 um 01:21 schrieb Lawrence D'Oliveiro: > Fun fact: the Linux kernel (the world’s most successful software project), > originally entirely C-based, is now incorporating Rust-based development. > It never accepted C++. There are for sure a magnitude more C++ developers than C developers because C has a magnitude more productivity. > I/O performance certainly is possible with Python, and it has the high- > performance production-quality frameworks to prove it. I thought about high performance code with >= 1e5 IOs/s. That's not possible with Python. > Try it with something that has actual lexically-bound local variables in > it: > > def factory(count : int) : > > def counter() : > nonlocal count > count += 1 > return count > #end counter > > #begin > return counter > #end factory > > f1 = factory(3) > f2 = factory(30) > print(f1()) > print(f2()) > print(f1()) > print(f2()) > > output: > > 4 > 31 > 5 > 32 That should be similar: #include <iostream> #include <functional> using namespace std; function<int ()> factory() { return [] { static int count = 0; return ++count; }; } int main() { auto f1 = factory(), f2 = factory(); cout << f1() << endl; cout << f2() << endl; cout << f1() << endl; cout << f2() << endl; } >> With io_uring you can easily handle millions of I/Os with a single >> thread, but not with Python. > Debunked above. That's not possible with Python because Python is slow.