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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IGJlY2F1c2UgZ+KkqChn4oG7wrkoeCkpID0gZyh5KSBbMS8yXSBS?= =?UTF-8?Q?e=3A_how?= Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 14:49:44 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <v13m5o$opr6$1@dont-email.me> References: <qHqKnNhkFFpow5Tl3Eiz12-8JEI@jntp> <499c4a7a-7fc7-4e4a-9b72-a7cd8affe271@att.net> <v0gv7o$3s84g$1@dont-email.me> <38955b31-7a34-4d2a-a3ec-32b8a66c0d7e@att.net> <v0ujej$3ecti$1@dont-email.me> <03af2426-92b1-47f9-b32f-3c6f61b40f0c@att.net> <v10n82$qkn$1@dont-email.me> <ce588a75-4ea6-4a78-8be2-d729e80d19cd@att.net> <AddHfbN-qz8pWaxRgIvS5xiFQw8@jntp> <v12r6n$j2qg$1@dont-email.me> <04UhIIGxlylb-chvwW7DF1FwtEM@jntp> <v12rhe$j562$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 23:49:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="96a83a72b940e46d81a2b3c04610ffbd"; logging-data="812902"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19TPmlDLXcu+JsL94Km04UABCYxx79G+4o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0SNkmFyd4x58J6hBUeU8n4RMNXQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v12rhe$j562$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2749 On 5/3/2024 7:15 AM, Tom Bola wrote: > Am 03.05.2024 16:12:28 WM drivels bullshit: > >> Le 03/05/2024 à 16:09, Tom Bola a écrit : >>> Am 03.05.2024 15:57:52 WM drivels bullshit: >>> >>>> Le 03/05/2024 à 11:07, Jim Burns a écrit : >>>> >>>>> WM call various things >>>>> "actually infinite" and "potentially.infinite". >>>>> What does he mean by those terms? >>>>> NOT "What does Cantor mean? Euclid mean?" >>>> >>>> By actual infinity I mean what Cantor started but could not stand. >>>> By actual infinity I mean what ZFC claims but cannot maintain. >>>> >>>> It is the idea that infinite sets are fixed such that no element can be >>>> added or removed. >>>> It is the idea that the natural numbers reach immediately from 0 until ω >>>> such that no number can be inserted between ℕ and ω. If every natural >>>> nunmber is increased by 1, then the set is shifted from {1, 2, 3, ...} to >>>> {2, 3, 4, ..., ω}. >>> >>> No, nothing must be shifted - it is enough to give each element another >>> name like above, or e.g. "a", "b", ..., "aa", "bb", ... or whatever. >> >> When 1 is added to 3, then no other name but precisely 4 is required. > > ROTFL - you idiot are so dense... No shit! wow!