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On 2024-05-05 13:19:57 +0000, Tyrone said:

> On May 5, 2024 at 1:09:12 AM EDT, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 05.05.24 02:23, Tyrone wrote:
>>> Today, there is plenty of competition in phones/searching/email services/etc.
>>> I have never used Google search and I get along just fine. You can use
>>> Hotmail/Bing/Yahoo/iPhones/Edge/Safari etc., with no money going to Google.
>> 
>> *ROTFLSTC*. Do you really believe this crap? The way you argue you shows
>> you do not understand how the internet works.
> 
> First, stating facts is not "arguing".
> 
> Second, you clearly have no idea what a monopoly is.  Another fact.

You can't reallt blame him since the US and EU politicians, and the 
management at Epic, etc. have no idea what a monopoly is either. 
Neither does any judge that lets the inane court cases last longer than 
two seconds.



> Third, I know how the internet works. Is Google making any money by me posting
> this? Is Apple?

Google could well be. A *lot* of the internet runs on Google APIs, web 
fonts, etc. behind the scenes, but using a proper Usenet server (rather 
than a web-based one) should avoid that.

Apple won't be making money from your post, but they did if you using 
an Apple device to make the post.



> Google is not a monopoly. There are multiple alternatives.  No one is forced
> to use Google (or Apple). Being popular and making lots of money for
> stockholders is not the definition of "monopoly".

It depends on how stupid the legal system wants to be.

Apple is a monopoly in the sense that it's the only place making Apple 
devices ... but then that's how businesses work. If you want a Mustang 
car, you can only get it from Ford. If you want a Big Mac, you can only 
get it from McDonald's. Almost every business on the planet is a 
"monopoly" in terms of the intellectual property.