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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H +++
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 23:13:46 -0500
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On 5/6/2024 11:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 5/6/24 11:59 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/6/2024 10:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 5/6/24 11:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2024 10:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/24 11:00 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2024 8:39 PM, immibis wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/05/24 21:40, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you are claiming that you have some top secret proof that shows
>>>>>>>> the above execution trace is incorrect I am taking this as the 
>>>>>>>> empty
>>>>>>>> claims of evidence of election fraud that no one has ever seen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The simulated execution trace is proven incorrect because it is 
>>>>>>> different from the actual execution trace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not top secret - it is very obvious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x)  // ptr is pointer to int function
>>>>>> 01 int D(ptr x)
>>>>>> 02 {
>>>>>> 03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
>>>>>> 04   if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>> 06   return Halt_Status;
>>>>>> 07 }
>>>>>> 08
>>>>>> 09 int main()
>>>>>> 10 {
>>>>>> 11   H(D,D);
>>>>>> 12 }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every H/D pair in the universe where D(D) is simulated by the
>>>>>> same H(D,D) that D(D) calls: AS IN THE ABOVE TEMPLATE
>>>>>> Involves 1 to ∞ steps of D and also includes zero to ∞
>>>>>> recursive simulations where H simulates itself simulating D(D).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of these simulated inputs can possibly reach past their
>>>>>> own line 03, thus none of them teach their own line 06 and halt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once you accept the software engineering of this we can get
>>>>>> into the much more difficult computer science of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you cannot understand the software engineering of this
>>>>>> then there is no sense moving on to something more difficult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Except I have described how to design a set of machines H that can 
>>>>> simulate this input to the finis input to the final line 06.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus, your claim is FALSE.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When you interpret
>>>> On 5/1/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>  > On 5/1/24 11:51 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> *Every D simulated by H that cannot possibly*
>>>> *stop running unless aborted by H*
>>>>
>>>> as *D NEVER simulated by H*
>>>>
>>>> you have shown a reckless disregard for the truth
>>>> that would win a defamation case.
>>>
>>>
>>> Except that I have explained that this arguement isn't the one I was 
>>> refering to, 
>>
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>> *It is the argument that proves your reckless disregard for the truth*
>>
>> *I am going to make this my canned reply*
>> (Until you change your tune).
>>
>> When you interpret
>> On 5/1/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>  > On 5/1/24 11:51 AM, olcott wrote:
>> *Every D simulated by H that cannot possibly*
>> *stop running unless aborted by H*
>>
>> as *D NEVER simulated by H*
>>
>> you have shown a reckless disregard for the truth
>> that would win a defamation case.
>>
> 
> 
> And I can make this MY canned reply that shows that yours is just a lie.
> And I am not on a short clock, so can out wait you.
> 

*It <is> the argument that proves you don't tell the truth*
*It <is> the argument that proves you don't tell the truth*
*It <is> the argument that proves you don't tell the truth*
*It <is> the argument that proves you don't tell the truth*

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When you interpret
On 5/1/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > On 5/1/24 11:51 AM, olcott wrote:
*Every D simulated by H that cannot possibly*
*stop running unless aborted by H*

as *D NEVER simulated by H*

you have shown a reckless disregard for the truth
that would win a defamation case.

> 
> Except that I have explained that this argument isn't the one I was 
> refering to, and you are just proving yourself to be a pathological liar 
> by saying it is.
> 
> You just don't understand what Truth means.
> 
> Since you refuse to stop lying, I will refuse to stop calling you are lair.
> 
> Of course, (unless you are lying about your health) you may soon be 
> forced to stop posting because you have become unable to do so, and then 
> I can stop refuting you.
> 
> 
> The fact that you will not take me up on the STFU challange, I guess 
> that proves that you don't really believe your own lies, and are just 
> admitting that you ARE just a pathological liar.
> 
> 

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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer