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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips Subject: Re: xkcd: Good and Bad Ideas Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 17:36:18 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <v1gup4$7f1r$1@dont-email.me> References: <v1e9i1$3gl7l$1@dont-email.me> <robertaw-D0AFE2.21530207052024@news.individual.net> <v1gpur$4fo$1@panix2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 00:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="38ebe60196f73752faf18b6c5bd71c04"; logging-data="244795"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/CvaqkOaXYkzXjCgELpsH6n3Pnh4MdzSM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:RIyNsxMrnfcjWUJ5ja6YPmSk3qw= In-Reply-To: <v1gpur$4fo$1@panix2.panix.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2631 On 5/8/2024 4:14 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote: >> >> What about the processes of cracking longer hydrocarbon chains down to 8 >> carbon chains? > > Houdry Process, 1937, although it didn't become usable until the fifties. > The ex-petrolero across the hall from my office says it was developed out of > German coal gasification research. > --scott Ah, I did not know the name of the process. I know the type of column, the cat-cracker, short for catalytic cracker, that uses a fluidized bed to break the long carbon chain molecules. Getting compressors to run at 1,300 F was quite a impressive trick on materials. I went down in the old below ground coal-to-gasoline refinery in Gelsenkirchen back in 1995 or so. That refinery could make almost a million gallons of gasoline a day and was never bombed since the Allies did not know about it. There were six flights of stairs bolted to the wall of the deep pit with the refinery at the bottom. I suddenly realized that the stairways were built in the early 1940s when we hit the first landing and told my guide that I had seen enough. He assured me that they were in good shape but, 50 year old stairs bolted to a wall were unnerving. We went back up to the office building. Using my software, the customer developed a new reactor to sell to refineries that converted asphalt with hydrogen injection to gasoline. It was a variant on the Fischer-Tropsch process. Lynn