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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Nebula Finalists 1982 Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 01:04:23 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <v1p4in$2bgoe$1@dont-email.me> References: <v1anb2$e21$1@reader1.panix.com> <h7kr3jtqj0eudpv4rjpj732imqui640jks@4ax.com> <hjes3j19k8sgufe37sf45hlqg84on2mbio@4ax.com> <v1moob$1r23n$1@dont-email.me> <la87f1F561eU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 03:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a4d7d8d906a2ff68d93ad655e49da764"; logging-data="2474766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gz6ZQW0S2CUuFiMYZIRw9zWdBstAcQj8=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ynjIn5lN5YWcYXIgs83tub8YzeM= sha1:+6Cn9OmB2iQ/iMW6g2v0iWWZ08w= Bytes: 3255 ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <v1moob$1r23n$1@dont-email.me>, > Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 May 2024 00:51:05 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8 May 2024 13:06:36 GMT, Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with the May (and the other two). The May is one of the rare >>>>> cases where my opinion of the first book of a series went down as I >>>>> read more of the series. There are plenty of series where my opinion >>>>> of the series goes down after I read more, but not many where the >>>>> opinion of the first book itself goes down. >>>> >>>> I thought the first of the May books was the weakest of the series and >>>> that they improved as she went on. >>>> >>>> For me one of the best scenes was the creation of the Mediterranian >>>> sea following the breaking of the rock formation of which Gibraltar >>>> was part (and the only surviving portion of the rock face) - which one >>>> of the main characters of the book played a critical part. >>> >>> I've encountered that theory before. Also applied to the Red Sea with >>> the Bab al-Mandab the result of the breach. >>> >>> Both, IIRC, were claimed to be what produced all those flood legends. >> >> The drying of both, and the subsequent flooding, aren't theories; they're >> well established, with lots of evidence. Othboth occurred a few >> million years ago, before modern humans evolved. >> >> However, the Black Sea partially dried up during the Ice Ages, and flooded >> again when the Mediterranean rose enough to enter through the Bosporus. >> Various dates have been proposed, including around 5600 BC. That has been >> proposed as the source of Flood legends. >> >> Pt > > As I recall Randall Garret (mostly his wife due to his declining health) > had a series with pre-human cat-people in a pre-deluge Mediterranian basin. > Also, there is a Hugo winning XKCD sequence set in a future dry Med basin. Also Turtledove 'Down in the Bottomlands'. Pt