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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###
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On 2024-05-13 04:54:30 +0000, immibis said:

> On 10/05/24 19:55, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>> 
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> [ .... ]
>> 
>> I've tried out your much spammed code on GCC (see below).  It is clear
>> you have never built or run this code, which ironically can't reach Line
>> 06.  It can't even reach line 00.
>> 
>>> Richard tried to get away with D never simulated by H as an example
>>> of D simulated by H:
>> 
>>> Message-ID: <v0ummt$2qov3$2@i2pn2.org>
>>> On 5/1/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> 
>>> *That people say they know I am wrong yet will not show the detailed*
>>> *steps of how I am wrong indicates that they are probably liars*
>> 
>> You have said, or at least implied that your code fragment is runnable.
>> I think you are the liar, here.
>> 
>>> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x)  // ptr is pointer to int function
>>> 01 int D(ptr x)
>>> 02 {
>>> 03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
>>> 04   if (Halt_Status)
>>> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
>>> 06   return Halt_Status;
>>> 07 }
>>> 08
>>> 09 int main()
>>> 10 {
>>> 11   H(D,D);
>>> 12 }
>> 
>> 
>> .  These are the diagnostics generated by GCC:
>> 
> And the halting problem is about Turing machines, anyway.

Not necessarily. The same question can be asked about different machines.
The restriction to Turing machines is just one way to ensure that the
problem is well defined.

-- 
Mikko