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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 08:40:08 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <v1t57p$3g3o3$3@dont-email.me> References: <v18e32$1vbql$1@dont-email.me> <v1avuv$2lks2$1@dont-email.me> <v1b7gl$2ndka$1@dont-email.me> <v1cla9$34iis$1@dont-email.me> <v1d2mi$9f72$11@i2pn2.org> <v1di1h$3b2m5$1@dont-email.me> <v1dtdv$3dqg4$1@dont-email.me> <v1du2i$3dt7u$1@dont-email.me> <v1fetd$3s7jo$1@dont-email.me> <v1ft42$3vdau$2@dont-email.me> <-5Gdnf-nQvstC6b7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v1gid8$4ilc$1@dont-email.me> <v1h9eu$9faf$1@dont-email.me> <v1iqli$nsva$1@dont-email.me> <v1ln3c$vfh$1@news.muc.de> <v1s6e6$397iq$2@dont-email.me> <v1s7t8$39hqi$1@dont-email.me> <v1s8ft$39m8s$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 15:40:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="822a7b45c10435b9354ed3bfb60d5b64"; logging-data="3673859"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18BMSJsaL5GdN4t0BoqgQAf" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:cx0ddJyelyr3Ie2Iq32eVjt6pqs= In-Reply-To: <v1s8ft$39m8s$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3298 On 5/13/2024 12:29 AM, immibis wrote: > On 13/05/24 07:19, olcott wrote: >> On 5/12/2024 11:54 PM, immibis wrote: >>> On 10/05/24 19:55, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>> [ Followup-To: set ] >>>> >>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> [ .... ] >>>> >>>> I've tried out your much spammed code on GCC (see below). It is clear >>>> you have never built or run this code, which ironically can't reach >>>> Line >>>> 06. It can't even reach line 00. >>>> >>>>> Richard tried to get away with D never simulated by H as an example >>>>> of D simulated by H: >>>> >>>>> Message-ID: <v0ummt$2qov3$2@i2pn2.org> >>>>> On 5/1/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> >>>>> *That people say they know I am wrong yet will not show the detailed* >>>>> *steps of how I am wrong indicates that they are probably liars* >>>> >>>> You have said, or at least implied that your code fragment is runnable. >>>> I think you are the liar, here. >>>> >>>>> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x) // ptr is pointer to int function >>>>> 01 int D(ptr x) >>>>> 02 { >>>>> 03 int Halt_Status = H(x, x); >>>>> 04 if (Halt_Status) >>>>> 05 HERE: goto HERE; >>>>> 06 return Halt_Status; >>>>> 07 } >>>>> 08 >>>>> 09 int main() >>>>> 10 { >>>>> 11 H(D,D); >>>>> 12 } >>>> >>>> >>>> . These are the diagnostics generated by GCC: >>>> >>> And the halting problem is about Turing machines, anyway. >> >> It is sufficiently isomorphic to the Linz machines. > > Linz is talking about Turing machines. My newest examples are anchored directly in Linz. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer