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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: Is Richard a Liar?
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 14:34:52 -0500
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On 5/14/2024 2:01 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Tue, 14 May 2024 13:40:31 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 5/14/2024 1:30 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 14.mei.2024 om 19:52 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 5/14/2024 12:49 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 14.mei.2024 om 19:14 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:13 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 14.mei.2024 om 17:45 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 10:42 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 14.mei.2024 om 17:30 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 10:08 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>>>>>>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-12 15:58:02 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2024 10:21 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-12 11:34:17 +0000, Richard Damon said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/24 5:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-11 16:26:30 +0000, olcott said:
> wtf is this ^
> 
>>>>>>> Before we can talk about this, first there must be 100% agreement
>>>>>>> about:
>>>>>>> 1) What is a "verified fact"? Who needs to do the verification
>>>>>>> before it can be said that it is a verified fact?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am ONLY referring to expressions that are PROVEN to be {true
>>>>>> entirely on the basis of their meaning}.
>>>>>> *CONCRETE EXAMPLES*
>>>>>> How do we know that 2 + 3 = 5?
>>>>>
>>>>> If needed we can write out the proof for this, starting from the
>>>>> axioms for natural numbers. That proof is well known.
>>>>>
>>>>> But nobody here knows the proof for your assertion above, that it is
>>>>> a verified fact that it cannot reach past line 03. So, we would like
>>>>> to see that proof. Just the claim that it has been proven is not
>>>>> enough.
>>>>>
>>>> The "nobody here" you are referring to must be clueless about the
>>>> semantics of the C programming language.
>>>>
>>> Are you honest? Please, give the proof, instead of keeping away from
>>> it.
>> I have been an expert C/C++ programmer for decades.
> Oh, so it’s only yourself who’s the expert? I would like to see some of
> your projects.
> 
>> If you knew C will enough yourself you would comprehend that my claim
>> about:
>> Any H/D pair matching the above template where D(D) is simulated by the
>> same H(D,D) that it calls cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.
>> This is a simple software engineering verified fact.
> proof pls
> 

*The only sufficient proof is being an expert in C yourself*
*Anyone that says that I am wrong without knowing C is dishonest*

>> My grandfather was a diagnostician and pathologist said: "You can't
>> argue with ignorance".
> He must have known.
> 

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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer