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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Products made crappy for you Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 22:53:12 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <v2182o$l0tp$1@dont-email.me> References: <RF50O.96359$Y79f.80394@fx16.iad> <_380O.223142$oNU.191033@fx15.ams4> <ed90O.14082$yT%1.4242@fx33.iad> <v1sq4c$3djon$1@dont-email.me> <_uw0O.53411$A1d8.8776@fx47.iad> <v1ufn7$3tjhr$2@dont-email.me> <v1vvhv$81kg$2@dont-email.me> <RGR0O.278671$oNU.96945@fx15.ams4> <87h6ezx3sc.fsf@mothra.home> <v217po$kt16$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 04:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5256f63a2054c574e1bc5ef7d81fcd1e"; logging-data="689081"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19YcAGFABabK8i6ArlGBlEnTrVZLEPHSKM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Zm+ciSvOoTIjkspnsAsRd7cpofI= In-Reply-To: <v217po$kt16$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2458 On 5/14/2024 10:48 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 5/14/2024 9:27 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: >> Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes: >> >>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> On 5/13/2024 9:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A friend has a new Mercedes. There's no dipstick and no place to add >>>>> oil. The electronics signal when to 'return to dealer for service'. >>>> >>>> Hmm. Sounds similar to STI and more "advanced" derailleur shifting >>>> systems. >>>> >>>> I prefer products I can visually diagnose, and disassemble if >>>> necessary. >>>> >>> Somewhat related is the Buffalo bikes. >>> >>> http://www.buffalobicycle.com >> >> Cottered cranks, are they stronger than Ashtabula? > > They look more like square taper to me. I see no cotter. > > https://buffalobicycles.biz/collections/cranks-and-chains etc. Looks like an earlier version of the bike did have cottered cranks: http://www.buffalobicycle.com/storage/documents/Buffalo_comparison_AFRICA.pdf The current model has a front brake, indicating the one in that PDF is not current. -- - Frank Krygowski