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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five SF Novels About Rediscovering Ancient Tech Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 15:15:01 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <v23c55$14bru$1@dont-email.me> References: <v1ilo9$ako$1@reader1.panix.com> <slrnv479kj.143u.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <v230uh$11drp$1@dont-email.me> <JP81O.2$xPAe.1@fx37.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 00:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3227ca9e061d7dcd95816ed8784c9177"; logging-data="1191806"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+vT0lsr6GJ8Kmh4uYFo7Q4" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Pue5ytcgL1giabEsead2Woq8WxQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <JP81O.2$xPAe.1@fx37.iad> Bytes: 3107 On 5/15/24 13:22, Scott Lurndal wrote: > BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> writes: >> On 5/14/24 10:59, Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>> On 2024-05-09, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote: >>> >> >> [stuff deleted] >> >>> >>> I was already intrigued by the British TV mini-series _The Last Train_ >>> (1999), where fifty years after the apocalypse our cryo-preserved >>> protagonists can just start up cars still sitting around in garages. >>> No flat batteries there. >>> >> >> Not only flat batteries, but flat gasoline. For those of us who have >> gasoline powered power tools (in my case, weed whacker, lawn mower, >> chainsaw), we have to add Stabil or some other gas preservative if the >> gas is going to sit in a can more than a month or so. Otherwise the gas >> goes "bad". If my chainsaw gas is more than a month or two old and has >> not been treated, it will not start the saw. >> >> I have no idea how 10 year old gas would run in a car. > > Well, I can vouch for 4 year old gas - we just started the > '74 450SL in the barn which hadn't been started since > March 2020 - all it took was a new battery and it purred > like a 70's kitten. Interesting. Was this a gasoline or diesel Mercedes? I think diesel lasts longer. > > I've heard anecdotally that modern gas doesn't deterioriate > as quickly as it used to. This does not surprise me at all. > > >> Would water have >> somehow collected in the gas tank under the gasoline? Would the gas be >> so "flat" that it would not run? > > It likely depends on how full the tank is/was > and how much headspace there is to produce condensation > and whether it is vented. My thinking too. -- ---------------- Dave Scruggs Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired) Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired) Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)