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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Is Richard a Liar? Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 12:14:06 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 54 Message-ID: <v24iou$1fskq$1@dont-email.me> References: <v18e32$1vbql$1@dont-email.me> <v1iqli$nsva$1@dont-email.me> <v1k0ts$iuna$1@i2pn2.org> <v1k381$14mbi$2@dont-email.me> <v1labh$kf53$1@i2pn2.org> <v1lfnq$1e7af$1@dont-email.me> <v1lh1g$kf52$4@i2pn2.org> <v1lmo1$1g1mj$1@dont-email.me> <v1luu1$lbo5$3@i2pn2.org> <v1lvuo$1i47i$1@dont-email.me> <v1m1bf$lbo5$4@i2pn2.org> <v1m2hc$1ijhr$1@dont-email.me> <v1m31m$lbo4$1@i2pn2.org> <v1m4et$1iv85$1@dont-email.me> <v1m5co$lbo4$2@i2pn2.org> <v1m71h$1jnpi$1@dont-email.me> <v1m7mh$lbo5$5@i2pn2.org> <v1mb8f$1kgpl$1@dont-email.me> <v1mkf8$lbo5$7@i2pn2.org> <v1mkmm$1q5ee$1@dont-email.me> <v1o67n$24f4c$1@dont-email.me> <v1vslr$7enr$1@dont-email.me> <v1vuor$24b2$1@news.muc.de> <v200u2$8dd9$1@dont-email.me> <v202k0$8q16$1@dont-email.me> <v20654$9o07$1@dont-email.me> <v2086v$a4tr$1@dont-email.me> <v208db$a6jn$1@dont-email.me> <v20ak6$an12$1@dont-email.me> <v20b6v$akk9$1@dont-email.me> <v20cf4$11h4n$3@i2pn2.org> <v20ect$bki0$1@dont-email.me> <v22j90$u8vi$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 11:14:06 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1042f681036333a040f7e702dbbd055b"; logging-data="1569434"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sf+vd9axJ410pJo1x/yVq" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:aGQqbJ0jb+GjQZUqcrYWh8yzZGU= Bytes: 3383 On 2024-05-15 15:10:24 +0000, olcott said: > On 5/15/2024 3:17 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-05-14 19:34:52 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> *Anyone that says that I am wrong without knowing C is dishonest* >> >> First you should prove that you know C. > > Not at all. Not in the least. Deductive proofs cannot rely > on an argument from authority. True but irrelevant. When someone sayes you are wrong, that does not refer to any deductive proofs as you haven't presented deductive proofs. In particular, what you said above isn't a deductive proof but an attempt to refute deductive proofs and other counter arguments with an ad hominem fallacy. > Anyone that knows C and claims that I am wrong either provides > the required single valid counter-example proving that I am > wrong or meets the > > https://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/reckless-disregard-of-the-truth.html > > of defamation cases. Saying that you are wrong hardly couts as defamation. Perhaps saying that someone is dishonest without being able to prove it is not a crime where you live but it certainly is a sin. >> For example, you should show >> that you can identify an error in the following code fragemnt: >> >> int H(ptr x, ptr x) // ptr is pointer to int function >> int D(ptr x) >> { >> int Halt_Status = H(x, x); >> if (Halt_Status) >> HERE: goto HERE; >> return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >> H(D,D); >> } >> >> If you don't, nobody is going to believe that you know C. You didn't, so nobody believes that you know C. -- Mikko