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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: OT: Peru Declaring Transgenderism a Mental Illness Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 04:10:27 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 136 Message-ID: <v26lbj$20265$18@dont-email.me> References: <ht3c4jhonmof94sccbabl32g18qi433e5o@4ax.com> <664618af$0$8473$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 06:10:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8a78acc5556ddf54860c465c23cc49e"; logging-data="2099397"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18refz6pwJt7duwihl5qO0J" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qFAJ8vr/LU5OgxPewk8Dalylf60= Bytes: 8143 On 2024-05-16, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On Thu, 16 May 2024 09:54:07 -0400, John Smyth wrote: > >> Why did this take so long? >> >> >> 'LGBTQIAP2S+ Outrage over Peru Declaring Transgenderism a Mental >> Illness' >> >> <https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2024/05/15/lgbtqiap2s-outrage- > over-peru-declaring-transgenderism-mental-illness/> >> >> 'The government of Peru signed a Supreme Decree this weekend defining >> transexuality as a mental disorder as part of an update to the nations >> Essential Health Insurance Plan (PEAS), prompting outrage from the >> LGBTQIAP2S+ community. >> >> While the definition, according to the Peruvian government, seeks to >> give access to those identifying as transgender or other gender >> identities to health insurance coverage, the decree has been met with >> fierce backlash by local LGBTQIAP2S+ activists and politicians. >> >> The PEAS is a minimum healthcare benefit plan that Peruvian citizens >> receive when enrolling in the nations public, private, or mixed health >> insurance providers. PEAS provides for the basic medical procedures a >> citizen needs and contains a detailed list of outpatient medical care, >> tests, specialized consultations, and other treatments that patients may >> be entitled to according to their particular health condition. >> >> The controversial decree stated that, following a review of the >> diagnoses included in the World Health Organizations (W.H.O.) 10th >> International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) that are included in >> the countrys PEAS health program, the omission of seven (07) ICD-10 >> diagnoses related to mental health problems were found, which, >> according to the decree, should be incorporated into the nations >> healthcare plans taking into account Perus mental health laws. >> >> As such, the decree defines transexualism, dual role transvestism, >> child gender identity disorder, other gender identity disorders, and >> gender identity disorder, unspecified as mental health problems in >> accordance with the definitions established by the W.H.O.s ICD-10 >> manual. >> >> The decree stated that the inclusion of said diagnoses allows them to be >> covered according to the list of health benefits of Perus PEAS >> healthcare program. >> >> While the decree utilizes W.H.O.s ICD-10 as its basis, the World Health >> Organization has since replaced it with a newer 11th edition that no >> longer defines transexualism as a mental illness. The ICD-11 was >> presented to the World Health Assembly in 2019 and went into effect in >> January 2022. >> >> Shortly after the decree was published, the Peruvian Health Ministry >> issued a statement on Saturday in which it ratified its position that >> gender and sexual diversity are not diseases while also expressing >> respect for gender identities, as well as our rejection of the >> stigmatization of sexual diversity in the country. >> >> The sexual orientation and gender identity of a person does not >> constitute in itself a physical or mental health disorder and, >> therefore, should not be subjected to treatment or medical care or >> so-called reconversion therapies, the statement read. >> >> The Ministry explained that, to ensure complete mental health care >> coverage, the PEAS plan was updated in view of the need to ensure the >> benefit of comprehensive mental health interventions, as conditions for >> the full exercise of the right to health and well-being of the >> individual, the family and the community. >> >> ICD-10 remains in effect in our country, as long as the progressive >> implementation of ICD-11 is initiated, as it happens in other countries >> of the region, the statement read. >> >> Local activist Shely Cabrera told the Argentine outlet Infobae on >> Tuesday that, while the decree does modify the PEAS plan to establish >> which diseases are, in some way, covered by insurance, the decree >> posed a threat to members of the LGBTQIA+ community throughout Peru. >> >> She said: >> >> There is a previous decree, which is from 2021, that makes this update >> of the Health Insurance Plan and this one, which is 009-2024, modifies >> it to add these new categories, based on the ICD-10, which is a document >> that dates back to 1992. The ICD is the international classification of >> diseases, it is a global diagnostic system that is approved by the World >> Health Assembly (WHA); however, the ICD-11 is currently in force, from >> 2019 and came into force in 2022. This does not pathologize, it does not >> consider disorders or diseases of any kind to sexual and gender >> diversities. >> >> Cabrera claimed that the decree will further promote the dissemination >> of speech that violates the dignity of these people, since >> discriminatory groups will be able to rely on the law by saying that it >> is a disease. >> >> In the case of trans persons, they will not be respected and will be >> exposed to be called by their social name, their pronouns will not be >> considered and one of the most basic rights, which is identity, will not >> be recognized, Cabrera asserted. >> >> Similarly, local LGBT activists have denounced the decree as >> discriminatory, claiming that the categorization of transgender >> identity as a mental illness contributes to stigma and aggravates the >> consequences for a minority already subject to discrimination. >> >> Herberth Cuba, advisor to the Peruvian Health Ministry, told CNN en >> Español on Tuesday that although the ministry does not consider sexual >> orientation and gender identity mental health disorders, it is necessary >> to take the World Health Organizations ICD-10 and its definition of >> transexualism as a mental illness as basis for the PEAS plan update as >> ICD-10 is the current medical classification in effect in Peru. >> >> Cuba asserted that, although the update may seem contradictory, it is >> the only way to ensure the benefit of comprehensive mental health care >> to the entire population, including Perus LGBT population. >> >> Peruvian lawmaker Flor Pablo Medina denounced the decree on Tuesday as >> shameful and issued a formal request to Peruvian President Dina >> Boluarte and the Peruvian Health Ministry to repeal the decree. >> >> >> We cannot allow it to go backwards, denigrate and violate the rights to >> equality and non-discrimination, as well as the right to health and >> other rights of LGBTI people in Peru, Medinas message read.' > > The "community" has already provided all the evidence necessary to prove > that it is a mental illness. Discussing it further is a complete waste of > time. It's not a waste of time until the stupidity is ended. -- [Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality." "It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine