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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Every D correctly simulated by H never reaches its final state and halts Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 09:25:52 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <v270q1$22vhs$1@dont-email.me> References: <v26b2t$1rdu0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 09:25:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a3a2b6069f6f7337451de5d7934c52bb"; logging-data="2195004"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19XesOxTaJ2dwNd1JxaGUDK" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/fr0FTwQNutQ0UUZOpJsCpEFBKU= In-Reply-To: <v26b2t$1rdu0$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2214 Op 17.mei.2024 om 03:15 schreef olcott: > The following is self-evidently true on the basis of the > semantics of the C programming language. > > typedef int (*ptr)(); // ptr is pointer to int function > 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x); > 01 int D(ptr x) > 02 { > 03 int Halt_Status = H(x, x); > 04 if (Halt_Status) > 05 HERE: goto HERE; > 06 return Halt_Status; > 07 } > 08 > 09 int main() > 10 { > 11 H(D,D); > 12 return 0; > 13 } > > In the above case a simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly > emulates at least one of the x86 instructions of D in the order > specified by the x86 instructions of D. > > This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H > in the order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling > H(D,D) in recursive simulation. > > Any H/D pair matching the above template where > D(D) is simulated by the same H(D,D) that it calls > cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt. > > *This is a simple software engineering verified fact* > Note that olcott defines 'verified fact' as 'proven fact', but he is unable to show the proof. So, it must be read as 'my belief'.