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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: cpu-x
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 13:28:33 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2024 02:54:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-05-15, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 14:01:54 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-05-13, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 12:25:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 May 2024 23:36:40 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2024 00:34:11 GMT, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is technically possible to keep ownership of the software and
>>>>>>>>> make a profit with it, but it is rather difficult the moment you
>>>>>>>>> slap the GPL on the code.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tell that to the companies making a big business of Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name them, and explain how it is the _software_ that is making them
>>>>>>> money,
>>>>>>> and not the _support_ for that software.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Red Hat (on wikipedia):
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>     "They produce open-source code so that more programmers can make
>>>>>>     adaptations and improvements. Red Hat sells subscriptions for
>>>>>>     the support,
>>>>>>     training, and integration services that help customers in using
>>>>>>     their open-source software products."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Though frankly, what is the difference if you sell your software or
>>>>>> if you bundle software and provide support for that bundle?
>>>>>
>>>>> The latter is a subscription, much like what the zealots are
>>>>> complaining about Windows software doing. Sure, the software will
>>>>> stilla be yours, but you won't get the support you need to figure out
>>>>> how to use it.
>>>> 
>>>> For Linux, corporations can usually find third party support on a per
>>>> case basis. When CentOS was a clone of Red Hat instead of whatever it
>>>> is now, corporations would use it instead of Red Hat and pay for
>>>> support when needed. (I'm guessing the same thing happens now with
>>>> Rocky Linux and the other Red Hat clones.) You don't have that third
>>>> party option with Microsoft when paying for yearly licensing. And that
>>>> will especially be the case if they start renting out their software
>>>> instead of selling it when Windows 12 comes out.
>>>
>>> I am not a fan of Microsoft's pay-per-month model for Office, and
>>> bought Office 2021 simply to avoid it. I understand the benefits of
>>> paying monthly and continually getting updates, but I would rather just
>>> pay up front. If that is indeed the way they will go with Winodws,
>>> potentially offering yearly OS subscriptions for people who buy a new
>>> computer, I will gladly move onto Fedora. The mere fact that Fedora
>>> would respect my desire to use S3 sleep rather than S0 (I can change it
>>> using a third-party application), and that I am not forced to update,
>>> would be a reason to use it over any new version of Windows.
>> 
>> I've got Fedora 39 (Cinnamon spin) on one computer. It's not a whole
>> different than Linux Mint when you get used to it. Except it's cutting
>> edge vs stable. But I guess I don't have the cutting edge version now, I
>> think Fedora has gone to version 40.
>> 
>> I guess I should look into how to update it.
>
> From what I read, Fedora pride themselves in the fact that they make 
> upgrading from one release to another very simple. I've never had to do it 
> myself since the distribution never stayed installed on my computers long 
> enough, but I imagine it to be rather painless.

I'll probably try upgrading my Fedora computer this weekend and report on 
how it goes.

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