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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Man strikes back against Seaside California order with boat mural
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 16:11:06 -0000 (UTC)
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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Thu, 16 May 2024 15:27:50 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>On 5/16/2024 6:58 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:18:33 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>The same reason WAR AND PEACE and Beethoven's ODE TO JOY are speech and
>>>>>the boat isn't.

>>>>The lyrics in the Ode to Joy were definitely "speech" but Schiller's
>>>>not Beethoven's. )albeit Beethoven admired Schiller)

>>>A musical performance, with lyrics or as an instrumental, is speech
>>>under United States law. Publishing the sheet music is press.

>>>Speech is more than just words.

>>You don't say...

>Ah but is it YOUR speech or somebody else's? (Which was the point I
>was making concerning who wrote the words to the Ode to Joy - which
>I've listened to numerous times as I'm a huge fan of the 9th)

The performer -- in this case a full symphony orchestra with choir -- is
the speaker, not the composer.